P2s Mind Refreshing MailBox 2026

January 2026s mind refreshing topic

Why, do you think, Males are best suited to raise, represent, and guide boys from 7 years old, on, full time!?

Letters:

Hi P2:

Let’s see if you can guess what I do for a living and what my life has been like from my comments here...

I’m sad to think about the question you pose this month. Not because I don’t think man and boy should be together, and by default of nature itself they are, but because I don’t see any way in the kind of cultural setup we now have, that we CAN. We’re looked at as “out of place” if we actually do care enough to spend personal time with a boy, and simultaneously looked at as being “bad fathers” if we spend too much time anywhere else but with the one woman we had to commit ourselves to and the house that used to be ours, and do the will that she (in her early mothering years) established. Both our culture, its maintaining legalist framework, relentless expectations, AND females’ advising (as if they are representing ALL human emotions, and as if males’ feelings are no different than hers,) that legal framework...USURP taking care of boys as if young males are nothing more than an extension of who she sees as “her children,” mostly because the females in charge... I think you call them RFF (Radical Feminist (emotional) Fascists), are somehow controlling what men come to think and do by raising our boys without men being around so much of the time as to give them any choice of their own, not even when it’s for their own nature’s innately sensed MALE help!

Even when boys WANT to live with their Dads... especially in cases of divorce... most women SPITEFULLY take over the son’s life and make it look like they are “protecting” them from the “bad man” who “let them down,” when all she is doing is using the boy as a proxy to attack the former husband she wants to attack, and misrepresents by calling herself the only one who can be “responsible” for the boy, because the husband “won’t”, but only she (supposedly) knows how to do emotionally... which is enough to make grown men cry...not only from missing their sons, but from not knowing who to blame, and feeling there is no place for real males in this kind of world at all... many just plain giving up trying to find why males are so locked out of positive lives!

Long story short, and I hope you will do this subject some justice in your reply to this letter, which I’ll be looking for til you do... I have no doubt that men and boys belong with each other, but since both our culture and women have so many other “obligations” for us, which focus us away from our own male youth, and the many relationships we could have with them if we had OUR interests represented in the legal and women’s minds who comprise that world of separation all around us, we think we have to appease the women and state, as misinformed about who we really are as males as they are, in order to get any use of our Male Eros at all! It would seem, sir, that they both have the modern male “by our balls” so to speak.

Please say something to cheer us up...

     DD... Daniel, feeling a bit depressed here!

#2

HI P2!

I’m a father of 4 (2 boys, 8 and 12; and 2 girls 13 and 6), and have been married for 14 years. I’m an auto worker who gets good pay to take my place on an assembly line, and keep things moving, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. While the company I work for has no provision for allowing any of my children to come to work with me, I have to ask you, "How could they?!"  Even if they did let me bring my 12 and 8 year old boys, I’d have concerns about their safety because I would be fully occupied (and unable to even regard or speak to them until my line stopped, and I was finished with my continuing place in keeping the line progressing). For long periods of time at a time, there is no responsible way I can bring my boys, or even communicate with them, even if their schools allowed it, unless maybe the company let them watch from a glass covered balcony above somehow. I think they would get bored without my continual interaction with them. I do believe we could all START the process of bringing our boys into our adult male lives more and more, but that it would take a lot of discussion, agreement, planning, preparations and cooperation; none of which we have at this time for my kind of job or even most kind of adult centered male activities. Self employed men might be the best place to start, and, based on their success... more employers might be convinced it can be workable.

There are some men who can easily do computer call center type work at home, and still take care of their kids, but they should be of an age where they are ready to accept an invitation to spend good chunks of time watching and learning, and focusing their minds to, even while they are at home. Yet, even that doesn’t get to the core idea I think you are trying to share here... that at a certain stage of a boy’s development, he WANTS to be with his Dad, and enjoys the company of older males, and wants to show his interest and ability to be of help to them, often because of what he can learn from them, but also because of the various benefits that sharing our male lives together, especially young and old, can give us both, emotionally as males.

My wife would laugh at the very idea of having my boys with me all the time, and I do think SHE is better equipped and suited to take care of the babies and very young children, WHILE that is the stage of development they are at, which as you mention is actually fulfilled by about age 7 if not before. So, despite the fact that our current cultural narrative has been pulled so deeply into consumerism and radical feminist wishes, I DO think you are right... I mean, my partaking in current cultural assumptive meanings has me thinking of my boys as “my wife’s children” and therefore, “her responsibility,” but the more I think about it now, the more I realize, all too frustratedly, that both my boys and I are missing something crucial between ourselves... the affirmation of our male circulatory experience and MALE feelings relating, by accepting their mothers assumptive perception that boys are somehow their mother’s "possession" ... HER “children!”

I do wish my boys and I had a much closer relationship... after all, we do share the same DNA! But more than that I also find myself attracted at times to help other boys who look up to me. (I do still coach a boy’s 5th grade basketball team from having started to with my oldest son, and found it unexpectedly rewarding) I seem attracted to help those boys in many ways that I just assume my wife has already accomplished for my own boys. I can sense the needs, wants, and desires of many of the boys on the team and am good friends with many of them. I answer questions and provide feedback about both their progress and lack of it... suggesting exercises and even pairing some with others who are already accomplished, creating close friendships for them in the process. There are a few boys from single parent families who see me as a father figure, and I don’t mind reacting with positive older male support for them when they reach out to me. Yet I think you are getting at even more than just that... something only the ancient cultures knew and lived together, by being active parts of their everyday lives and sharing the many feelings of life without compartmentalizing them into categories of “propriety.”

Despite the fact that my family is “normal” in the cultural sense, and both my wife and I are on good terms, my children get most of their home-centered needs met and advice given from my wife, and I just sort of act as a back up when she needs more help, or the kids need stronger supervision. I guess it’s more because they started life looking to her TO provide for all they needed, and without the expectation that I should take over for the boys, after a certain time or level, they really are in a kind of limbo of motherly dependence. I WOULD like to take responsibility directly and personally with my boys, but there never seems to be any “right time” or place to change from what they have become quasi-comfortable with already.

I have tried to encourage my boys to come to ME more and more, as they grew, but we always “found ourselves on differing schedules” and their mother in the best position to get them off to school after I had already had breakfast and was off to work as my early schedule required. Yet, even though boys need their mothers KIND of care less and less... for everything... and more and more of the MALE kind, inversely, the older they get, society keeps on with the red flags preventing all male's closeness!  WHY P2?                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Why not just say that, as soon as a boy is ready... somewhere between 5 and 9, that men could begin to invite boys into their lives, including bringing boys to work with them (and, in fact, make the accommodating of that in the workplace a bargaining point for whether we take a job with that employer or not) Men could even form groups sharing their experience and suggestions and share them together (we are all a community of males, we just don’t seem to relate like it in the kind of world we live in... but could). Obviously such a sharing would need the understanding and cooperation of employers everywhere, but that’s where us coming together in discussion and sharing groups with other guys and their boys would really help. And we would all have our everyday lives more in common as males, once again if we did. We need to form grass-roots organizing so we could have a political voice in our communities which would encourage businesses to make provisions for boys to be with their dads at work. But until we can organize ourselves... either online or at our churches or schools or with neighbors in our neighborhoods, I don’t think that your statement, as true as it actually is in its essential sense... would be recognized as feasible by the masses who would see it as too hard to do.

Thanks again P2, and keep up the good work you’re doing to help all males get back in touch with their genuinely MALE identities! I think you’re really ahead of our time, and look forward to the time when boys WILL start getting the BOYS RIGHTS they have lost with no one to stand up for them and truly represent their male feelings and concerns. If you can, please help the rest of us caring males figure out how to get where your mind is... give us some workable small things we can do, because if I came all out in support of your idea, as good as it sounds, I suspect it would bring more derision to my family and I than approval and encouragement.

                             BBC (Barry (an extracurricular) Basketball Coach), seeking societal understanding

Plato the Second's reply:

#2

Hi Barry. Thanks for your thoughts on this critical boy issue. Please consider the reply I gave Danny D, above, as relevant to your concerns, simultaneously, as well. I hope you will be able to adjust your nick name, to make all boys you feel a personality complementation for and with, part of your LIFE team! See if my suggestion at the bottom of this page, might ring true for you!

To answer your question (letter column) : Society has not  recognized the difference between the kind of loving feelings life gives women to keep new life alive (shielding FROM the outside world) to the kind of loving feelings life gives Males to relate, connect, and extend humanity all over (connective TO the outside world).

          I do believe regardless of culture's dismissing of male love, that life MADE us as males to genuinely care about younger males growth and development... something that no one else seems to realize how much sense it would make to let boys spend AT LEAST a half a day with older males every day, like we used to from time immemorial before the current social order  narrative took over.

           As you alluded to, Boys and men seem to have meant more to each other in the past, yet after all that time since, Fathering today has deteriorated to  just being a matter of steering EITHER boys or girls into the societal pathway of expectations, by helping them obey their mothers at home, or (usually) female teachers at school, as they explore their (multiple choice type) options there.  Note here that "molesting" usually means departing from society's intended path, not hurting per se, even in court, though most people think it means hurting a helpless "child."

       Boys NEED someone who understands who they are, what they think and how they feel, but all they get is direction from women with a different instinct for different stages of life support, and different interests, than boys of 7, on, often making them even more perplexed, or causing them to make mistaken choices which end up working against their own MALE welfare which process is actually not only MOLESTING the path which LIFE designed boys to follow, with older males in sync with their instinct and feeling for them, but TAMPERING with the balance of life itself to the point of making people see others in our human family more as "strangers" than friends we haven't met yet!

BBC (Barry the Boy Coach) for MALE life nature, seeking a societal place to develop our male fuller GOOD MALE nature, not ignore it any more!   See scene depicted (Feb) for normal BBC relating!

Dear Friend Danny:

Thank you for being so poignantly honest. It’s most probably where we have to start to make the Truth of the statement for this month’s mind-refreshing mailbox topic more apparent. I had hoped to receive more letters from men and boys who were already happily involved in each others lives, but I guess I might have been a bit ahead of the time I am trying to speak to and for. This is something most of us feel inside, but have lost touch with, diverted by other’s interests for us, and, as you pointed out, overwhelmed by women who raise boys to spite and belittle us, and blame us for not taking better care of boys (tacitly females themselves), when it is THEY who are making it impossible for us to do so! (though most women probably don't understand how!)

       The philosophical problem to unravel here, and  may take philosophical minds to appreciate, is that on the one hand the human male has a whole emotional MALE range of dynamic and polarity reactions, from the most tender to the most aggressive, but has only been specialized to use the negative side of.  Fighter, Enforcer, "Winner," Disciplinarian, Conqueror... they all depend on the negative reward system of adrenaline rush, with an "obey or be punished" finality, which could be described as the male DARK SIDE. Imagine movies like the original Star Wars.  Luke Skywalker  had a good heart, but the world he found himself near destroyed by, required him to attack an enemy he eventually found out to be his very (unknown) father.  That father only knew the negative side.  Luke knew both sides, but became trapped in reacting to the violence that those on the Dark side thought of as giving meaning to their loveless lives.  That some women mistakenly have only experienced the Dark Side of male emotions, and the negative side of "sexuality" has led them to suspect ANY male intimacy... and, once  they have the power of millions of women  behind them, as the RFF have for the last 50 years, they treat ALL males as if every loving thing we try to do (outside of one woman we are told we must marry to get permission at all) can only be negative in meaning.  

     If boys are trapped in reacting to what is to them a loveless Male existence, then they only learn and practice the negative side of their feelings, and never learn the loving side which requires their Phase II, Male Nature Nurturing genuine intimacy to fathom and live from.  But, sadly, even when some boys manage to extricate themselves FROM the expectations of negativity all around them, they cannot receive support, let alone transmit the loving patterns and feelings, meanings and expectations that the POSITIVE polaritied male is trying to live and share, without being misunderstood as trying to overpower. 

          Hence the good of loving older males who DO reach out to share their lives, personally, with boys of all ages as part of their WHOLE-Y male identity, is immediately MISinterpreted as a "red flag" which may indeed identify the path of a NEGATIVELY specialized male, but not only ignores the different meaning of the same touching behavior when it's in a positive emotional dynamic polarity, but teaches her children and misinforms legislatures everywhere to ATTACK even YOU, Danny, because they see your Male Eros as having no place but reproductive function, and thus PREVENTS boys from even knowing, let alone experiencing How MALE Nature Nurturing Eros appreciation in a Holy Spirit CHANGES Male polarity of emotional expression and meaning to positive and desirable.

Now, to intuit your challenge, my friend... I would guess you are a factory worker by career, a former family man with at least one son, but now divorced and without custody of your boy. A boy who wanted to come with you, but wasn’t given legal support to, and now grows further and further away from you, only hearing his mothers feelings on the subject, and without the balance of a happy life with you he could have had, because his mom took over his whole life, forced the law to support her with half-truth reasons, and left you without any contact with boys... in a dystopian emotional world in which you do as you are told, or end up being called, and feeling like, a “loser.” So much so that you probably have given up relating to your biological son, and regret the day you ever got married... causing you to give up women and ignore boys.

      Another movie you should watch, Danny,  is "The Tender Bar",  a movie not only covered as Movie Munication #7 in The MALE Solution to the CMD*..., but offered on Amazon Prime TV.  If you fathom it deeply enough, as the MNN relevancy notes in V1B1 leads you to uncovering, you will see a very similar circumstance to the one you mention about spiteful women, and the way they manipulate boys to prevent them from even seeing that their DNA father DOES love them, because she is so busy trying to prove that his behavior is the most unloving thing she has ever seen as a female (but not understanding that male love is not designed for the mission that females have)... not only is preventing the boy from realizing he WAS loved by the Father, as the male youth he was, in male freedom, but thus causing him to give up on his Father as his mother's constant innuendo against him portrayed, without ever being allowed close enough to him to understand how MALE feelings need to be understood not blindly demonized; leading to his taking sides against him. All while the Father, robbed of any loving feelings by the women in his life, lashes out at a current wife who doesn't deserve his wrath, in an equal dose of misunderstanding what love means in its FEMALE design and mission. Thus the son assumes, once he sees it, to be what his Mother made his Father seem to be,  turning him into the despicable person he wasn't, before she manipulated the boy to not only see her view of his Father, but to make it "come true!" ...

    Please understand that we could actually be undergoing an evolutionary contingency that needs to be worked out, worldwide, because of females getting the power they have today, sooner than they could see the whole male identity, and thus needing to be understood more fully BEFORE the truly Platonically Male Eros sharing MNN relationships I am alluding to, can be recognized as the friendly and controllable Phase II, which boys need to be loving males themselves, but our current cultures and narratives haven't even recognized as existing yet... it's inside us, dormant and waiting to be recognized and reacted with... Which may indeed be why the wheat of positive polaritied males who reach out to help boys be a real part of their everyday lives, gets mistaken for negatively polaritied males just trying to overpower them, like they do everyone else... to get adrenaline rush feeling to replace the loving feelings they have been deprived of developing. I Invite those males who would like to make this a better world, emotionally, for males of all ages to live together in, and those who have some ideas on just what steps they think we need to take, and how to go about sharing this unfulfilled Male destiny, to come back with me... yes in my books, of course, but here too with some writings of yours, dear readers, on how YOU think we can support our own GOOD Male Instinct, it’s GOOD MALE Eros enhancing of affection based real love, and helping create a society that can see the whole range of both Male and female emotional responses to the emotional environments we find ourselves in. And thus, what we need to do to help create such a socially understood humane Male Nature including, narrative and expectations, from which men can once again share their lives, in real time with boys, hungry to belong to the community of GOOD Males, and prove their value, as male.

I further  invite you to begin by considering just what life was like... when we could be our own male selves... as I have, by going back to Plato himself, and working to realize how men and boys related when there was no state or women to interfere. Our natural Male lives and reactions, able to express themselves in empathetic sync, with each other.

This is not to say that culture today is unnatural, but it is to say that there are may ways culture and civilization itself can be programed. History shows that no one group ever stays in “power” very long, historically speaking. We can thank cultures for many of the technological advancements we enjoy today, but we need to understand that the current organization or “order” we are living, needs to refine itself, and our social narrative, by going back to see just where it diverged from letting men and boys be themselves, to power the social engine by his positively felt circulatory benefit, than shutting that down to accommodate female stationary comfort, instead. And even that said, there should always be a place for women too, but males need to better understand  that when women become so consumed with themselves (See “Alexander”) that women are a slave to their passions, that no matter what the environment around them, women will ALWAYS put themselves, by the nature of their very female instinct and motivation to invite new life and help it survive,  ahead of us, FROM HER mission.

Probably the very first step is to help each other as males realize what we are missing, as a result,  then help our culture understand too, so that we can refine the social narrative that relentlessly forms and shapes our minds and potentials before we even get a chance to think about them, otherwise, ourselves! Male identity is CIRCULATORY, NOT aggressive. But tied to the kind of reaction expected of us. Still, the more Platonically Eros filled friendly and loving an environment we can help create, in boys, the more platonically Eros filled friendly and loving will our humanity be.

The WHY(of Jan's topic)is that the child is the father of the man (in our case, the boy's raising, the precursor to who the man he becomes, IS)

The HOW to begin, for those who BELIEVE in  the GOOD of Holy Spirit guided MALE Eros affection based Phase II MNN, despite current appearances to the contrary, is what we will make our FEB monthly letter topic to discuss.

A better Male Optimizaton of our Male experience of Life is on the horizon, with a new narrative that includes our HONEST MALE feelings this time! ...

.. But If we males don't work to build a better MALE experience of life for ourselves NOW, who else will? ... THIS may be our last chance for quite a while! Once AI starts looking to females for emotional definitions, instead of us too, the bias of their Female instinct feelings, well intentioned or not, will drown ours, and our real interests, with them   ... Ad Infinitum ...

Sincerely...

Plato, The Second

February 2026s mind refreshing topic

HOW can boys choose to let older Males begin raising, representing, and guiding them from @7, meaningfully, again?!?

Hi P2!

Thanks a lot for giving me the opportunity to share the way my boy and I are able to relate to one another. My name is Jerry, and my boy, Jerry Jr., who is now ten, has been helping me in my basement and garage woodworking rooms since he was 5. I am a Carpenter by trade, and spend many of my days at construction sites where I do both rough framing and custom built ins for new home developers.

At home, I’m always involved in using my skills to make our home more homey and convenient for us all. Window seats, book case walls, some complete with built in counters and slow close doors, moldings galore, and even decking outside in the back. We routinely repair and even do painting jobs around the house and garage, together. Ever since Jerry Jr. Was about 3 he would toddle over to watch me, and after first picking him up to help establish and keep our father-son bond as mutual warmth and friendship together, and cautioning him about sharp edges and such, I would always invite him to see my tools, and watch how I use them... early on I gave him play sets of his own, with plastic or rubbery replicas, just to get the idea of how they work, first. As you might imagine he was really proud to not only use but even have them, and he took pride in taking good care of them as I showed him how to, and updated them with better tools and more trust and  responsibility as he grew.

Gradually I have helped JJ try working on projects with me, at first simply by knowing the names of tools I use, and where they are, so he can either retrieve them or put them back for me... helping him see the value not only of keeping a neat work place and surfaces, but understanding that you need room to work and how clutter leads to compromised effectiveness and even having to do things over again sometimes. At ten or so, now, JJ can actually put small frames and even sturdy bookcases and benches together. He knows how to apply an appropriate amount of sealant, depending on the amount of tightness needed, and then nail them, carefully, with the nail gun, or tap (or even drill, recently) a smaller dimension hole before hammering a wider dimension nail or screw into it. He has recently also started to use some of my power tools, and knows which ones I have qualified him to be able to use safely. Neither one of us wants to injure or hurt our bodies by mistake, but know the number to call and what to do, if injury does occur. It’s an important part of life and becoming independent.

Jerry Junior and I have watched many a video together, sitting on our comfy oversized lazy-boy recliner, which gives him not only a better idea of how to do things right the first time, (and enjoy our closeness together) but how NOT to make the mistakes many do, or what they may lead to, if he doesn’t take the time, and so not to repeat them himself. We continue to enjoy our closeness as natural affection, and feel good just being with each other. And we smile and joke with each other as we work... a lot! We also watch many home improvement shows and our common interest gives us a REAL sense of relevance in each other’s lives. I go to his school regularly as well, and my wife knows that in our house, all she has to really watch out for is his sister, because she knows JJ and I are such good and meaningful friends that I take care of basically all his needs, unless I’m not home and she remains the trusted go-to for him. She is actually happy with the fact that our boy looks to me to help him in all things MALE, and all things that MALES like to do! She actually feels like I’m “pulling weight” many other Dads don’t, but I explain that spending as much time with Jerry Jr. as I can is NATURALLY beneficial for both of us, and not only gives us more time to be good males together, but her more time to be good females with our daughter, as well!

While I really feel lucky to be working in a profession I can share so readily with my boy, I want all the guys out there to know how good it feels to have my boy proudly explain what he’s learned from me, like he did at a recent class event in which he told everyone that his favorite friend was me! I gave a speech for him and offered to help others learn about carpentry too... and could see and feel how much the other boys respect him and feel free to talk to me, because of his appreciative attitude. Some even ask to come over so they can learn how to build things too, which, in certain circumstances I am happy to allow. Thus I have gotten to know his teachers at school from attending many parent-teacher events, and look forward to continue giving both him and his friends career info and even bringing them to visit construction sites together on weekends (as long as too much work isn't going on.) They all love helping... even if it’s just picking up the leftovers from other wood workers or dry wall installers, or cleaning windows or floors. And, I always help them set their work standards on high, by either working with them or making sure to examine and grade their work. We always keep a close distance so I can hear their calls if I have other things to do away from them, myself.

So, while at this point JJ is learning more at my home workshops with me, than me taking him to work with me at other places, we are fast approaching the day probably when he reaches 12 or so, when he will know and be able to apply simple jobs that will make him a real asset to me in my profession. Even my supervisors and many of the professionals I work with know JJ, and are comfortable with him around, and how I have helped him blend in. I know, THAT is an IDEAL situation, but all the effort JJ has put into “becoming like me” has really paid off, and put him in a position to not only be at new home sites safely, but to actually help me by being there, and learn more than I could ever just tell him verbally, by seeing first hand what goes on in the building of a home and figuring out things about the process he doesn’t even know for a fact yet... great mind building for him!

I’m not a disciplinarian, and don’t need to be. I’m not interested in controlling my boy, I never need to,  just working together in mutual respect and regard, and helping him know how to make good decisions for himself. Consequently, JJ has learned to be interested in how I feel and likes to offer looking out for me like I look out for him... he really lives the golden rule which I honor with him, and we often discuss how much better life can be when we do. I’ve NEVER had to spank him, not only because the lines of communication are so open between us from my answering all his questions as if I were in his shoes, and him knowing I will always forgive him if he makes a mistake, but by immediately forgiving him and requiring him to try to make up for any mistakes he does make, with me actually showing him how to undo or make up for it, and him thanking me for understanding him and not getting mad at unintended messes. These are real man-boy relationship building moments!

So what I hope my letter today may do for many guys reading it out there, is simply give them the idea that no matter how hard it may seem be to take your boy with you to work, you can fill the hours you do jobs at home with answering your boy's questions about what you are doing, and how long it will take before he can do some of those same things too. Doing a good job with your boy at home prepares him to be ready to go with you, when you both feel he can. It’s not only worth your time, but you will find that the more you bring your boy into your own life and feelings, the more he will grow intelligent about life, and the more he will look forward to helping you; his appreciation of your time gives your activities more meaning, and will help him focus his interest and open his emotions to sharing anything else he needs help with, with you, as the person he looks to, to help him grow in his current life needs, wants, and desires, as well. So many other Dads I know don’t have this kind of close relationship with their sons, and don’t even know how much self esteem and confidence they and their boys are missing out on because of leaving everything to their mother! (Many women don't even know  what makes this possible!)

Jerry and Son, Carpenters

P2s Reply

Hi Jerry! Great to hear from the both of you! I hope you’ll think about helping your son write an essay or even a letter to me, possibly as part of a school project or assignment, about how much he’s learned helping you, and what advise he’d have for other boys who would like to just get along better with their Dads too, let alone all the benefits of learning about what work really entails, and how many men are ready to include boys in their lives if only given the expectation to be able to. I know that GOMVP would be happy to give your boy a place to either see his letter on the website or even to PDF publish an essay when it has a lot for other boys to want to read about, and wants to share it with them too! Many boys who are either bored, with “nothing to do,” or afraid of their Dads because they have never been on the same page enough with each other, or only have contact with them when he is disciplining them, would be able to use you as an example to share with their Dad too!

So, one thing your letter helps us caring older males realize, is that even if it is going to take our social narrative a long time to give boys back into older male care with those older males wise and empathetic enough to develop real Male Nature Nurturing relationships with their boys as the everyday reality it normally has been from primitive times, we can start even now, by simply treating our boys like the real, unique and growing MALE individuals they are! By understanding the value of taking the time to include your boy in your home activities, of any kind, and not seeing him as “interfering” with doing something else faster.  You’ll not only be helping your son grow, and taking your rightful place in his life, but enjoying your time together more, as the advantage of sharing a common activity together is what’s needed to provide opportunities for the two of you to share feelings and fun with each other... normalizing your maleness as enjoyable and something to share with him too!

If you look at life’s path for us as males, you will recognize not only that we are all continually growing, and don’t stay in any one stage for long, but that INDEPENDENCE is what nature is leading us to by giving us older friend attractions, starting with female Mothering for Phase I fetus, helpless baby, and very young child; 3 DIFFERENT stages and kinds of female attraction, but not ending there because those stages only comprise Phase I, and that Phase I gives way to Phase II, normally by about age 7, if not sooner.

Phase II is where the mothering kind of loving attention which shields the very young FROM the outside world, turns into Female Nature Nurturing, in which girls learn from them more and more about their own FEMALE bodies and feelings, especially before the mating urges and pheromones she will have biologically, kick in by around 12 or so. Unfortunately many women don’t understand anything but the mothering kind of entire micro-managing of a helpless creature, and the loving Female Eros feelings THAT gives them. In primitive nature only times, that usually lasts only for as long as it takes for the very young to get along by themselves, while the mother then turns her attentions to attracting (seducing) another male to begins that process all over again. And again and Again... that is until our current culture took over without paying enough attention to males part in helping boys. It overlooked many of the important transitions, and just called young people “children” until they are “adults!” So many mothers in today’s setup have never learned, themselves how to actively prepare their girls to be ready, willing and able to engage in appropriate kinds of Eros together, and be ready to delay their Mating Phase III, from the 12 or 13 year old timeframe life is giving them the ability to, biologically, to the 18 year line which our current culture requires girls to wait for before engaging in it at all.

Worse, many girls are not even given the help they need to see the normality of either Phase II Eros or Phase III mating activity, and simply assume everything like it is “dangerous” and verboten til they marry... as if girls could possibly get the experience they need to jump from “child” to “Adult” automatically at 18 without all the developmental growth help they need to be ready thru each of the many earlier phase stages they need to optimize understanding of BEFORE settling down in Phase IV! (marital agreements +)

For the sake of our own discussion here, as wise and caring older males, who have been boys ourselves and know how to help boys with their continued growing and development, we need to help mothers, and all females for that matter, understand the need boys have for older male continuing loving interest to take over from her kind. We need to explain to them that by the time their boys are around 7, her mothering, and the kind of fathering that just supports THAT, need to give way to the boys being an active part of their Phase II Male Nature Nurturing relating with older males. I call that “Passing the torch” (of the kind of loving attention a boy needs... FROM the shielding FROM the outside world kind the mother is best at giving, TO the kind of CONNECTING love TO the outside world, that both Fathers and 2nd Fathers (those who feel the inner connection with a boy and want to offer him time in their lives to learn from them too, as members of the community of males we all should be, but never seem to have been given the time to even realize, let alone support...) are designed to give boys, and why all our Original Male Voices writings of all kinds are so important for ourselves and the kind of world our boys will grow into and become like, themselves) are best suited to share through the many stages and levels THAT requires!.

Like Libera, the Boy’s Choir from London sing...

Where would Jerry Jr. Be without YOU and your sincere friendship with him, Jerry Sr.?! How many boys detour out of their own development from not getting the older male care, interest, attractions and intimacy they need to be happy and healthy emotionally AS the BOY they ARE, NOW?! As you start thinking about this reality, you can also see how the boy crisis and so many of the other problems we’re working at solving here at GOMVP for boys CAN be short circuited from even happening, by helping our culture give our males BACK the genuine closeness and warmth with each other they used to get just by trying to survive in one room existences, long ago, but which our attempts at commercial progress threw out by mistake hundreds of years ago, and most assumed those promoting that kind of NEGATIVE polarity life energy dynamic narrative must be right. Wrong!

Please understand, that while many men have only had the kind of Fathers and older male connections that “broke” them, like breaking in a horse, to obey without question (negative polarity indoctrination), that life gives all boys a fuller range of male feelings to work with from day one... and that the wise and caring Male Nature Nurturer understands that if you want to help your boy BELIEVE in the goodness of life, and YOU as his Father and / or 2nd Father mentor, that it is the Golden Rule that you live with him that he will normally and naturally treat you back in kind with as well, if you make it the basis of your relating with him. I can honestly say, from the many years of working with boys every day I’ve experienced, that I can verify in no uncertain terms that boys treat you the way you treat them... be GOOD to them and they will be GOOD to you... don’t take your problems OUT ON them, (or they’ll take theirs out on You, too) but share your feelings and needs WITH them, and they will do likewise as well. You won’t need to "break" or “control” them, if you have learned how to trust them, and they know what it’s like to be given trust and how to value and keep it. Stick up for them when they do need help, and privately discuss suggestions that would have helped had they realized them, when helpful... all the things you wish an older male had discussed and practiced with you, but didn’t.

The more you bring boys into your real life and activities with you, the more your boy will feel respect and give you respect, naturally. Contrary to many outdated psychology texts, you CAN be a boy’s best friend and Father, or Guardian, too! Reach out to initiate interest both in and for your boy, or any boy you’d like to show and share genuine friendship with, as members of the community of males... and it will lead the way to his seeing the world as a friendlier place, and you as a male friend, no matter what your age... giving him the roots of a Positive Polarity Masculinity that will give him the motivation and confidence to keeping Good going in our present system, while innovatively working to vision and bring new solutions for how to be happier and more relevant as the genuine male he is, when he sees how his ideas can work better for those who want to try them out with him!

Remember, male identity is more circulatory by nature than females, and by his natural design and mission he is motivated by life to relate, connect and extend life far and wide. That he is often used when power or aggression is needed, is NOT his full and deeper true male identity, though we have much work to do to develop it... starting with boys everywhere... to help more and more males understand our true circulatory identity as reaching out in friendships of many degrees and amounts, not the all or nothing at all of either controlling others or having no interest in them at all, which many radical feminists treat us like, despite their many pledges of equality. Women need to do a whole lot more work on themselves, too, before they can actually realize man and boy BELONG together, and have their own values and interest as males, and not just aggression or violence. This may be so because many women who have become today's Radical Feminists were raised in negative polarity themselves, and never understood the differing design and mission males have can and should indeed be positive, appropriate to understanding who others are as an individual, in the positive emotional dynamic of the Golden Rule!

PS. Let’s keep the Jerry and Jerry Jr. kind of letter coming, guys ... and, from Both man and boy if possible; and another opportunity for understanding and support, by working on doing the writing together and looking to each other as the real friends you CAN be, if you just set that base of perception and response POSITIVELY, and early!

A better Male Optimizaton of our Male experience of Life is on the horizon, with a new narrative that includes our HONEST MALE feelings this time! ...

Plato, The Second

Sincerely...

.. But If we males don't work to build a better MALE experience of life for ourselves NOW, who else will? ... THIS may be our last chance for quite a while! Once AI starts looking to females for emotional definitions, instead of us too, the bias of their Female instinct feelings, well intentioned or not, will drown ours, and our real interests, with them   ... Ad Infinitum ...

MARCH: More letters from men and boys relating as real individuals... Golden Rule Style!

Dear Plato the Second:

Boys and I get along GREAT! And while I like to think it's because I treat them the way I wish I had been treated by older males when I was a boy, others simply say that since I don't have to criticize anything but the way they play the sport I coach them in, I don't have it as hard to deal with kids as they do.  What I know is that there is an inner connection I'm making to each one of them which not only many Fathers don't have for them, but neither do most of those who are designated as authorities over them.

That tells us both a couple of things.

1) That we both have a common basis in our mutual love for the sport, and

2) That we see each other as real individuals, not categories.

And there's a third most outsiders overlook as well...

3) When man and boy spend a lot of time together, we not only have a better idea of who we are as males, young and old, and who we'd like to be and be with, but share a common REALITY of life in which we comprise an important part of each other's world.  The reactions we THEN have for and from each other, rely on the amount of quality time we've spent (or didn't) WITH each other.

Thus the focus we have is on our masculinity and how we move into maturity as males, taking cues from each other... the boys looking to older males for support and understanding, and the older males who are with the boys because they want to be with them, able to feel empathy for their feelings, and a deep appreciation for the male of our species... especially the joy and freedom boys have for life... their curiosity and honesty and fun loving nature, enlivening us as we age.

When man and boy are working on something together regularly, they get to know each other, and just the actions and reactions normalize into an acceptance based on our good and flexible masculinity, not someone else's fears of what we take for granted. The good older males, coaches of sports and music and work of all kinds are actually LIFE coaches, not just authority figures. The way our culture has evolved, for all it's accomplishments and good intentions, has created a Father, who, living up to his societal roles and functions, can only come home to see his boy as his wife's possession, and find himself continually criticized for the boy not acting like the female wants him to, resulting in spankings and the generation gap widening.

The answer to why is right in front of us... males are not females, and just like girls thrive growing up with older females all around them, males thrive when raised more of the time by older males. Just like females would never think of giving their obedient girls over to manly interest in how they behave, learn, perform, and react instead of themselves. Raising boys is something males should never have allowed women to do for boys. Women's emotions, though soothing at times, is like an invisible surrounding eggshell of ever-ready shame and guilt, just waiting to raise boys as they were raised as girls... and as though there is no difference! Yes, they started out giving a fetus and helpless baby bodily help we could not, but when we try to give boys their next stage of LIFE support... MALE help for life and living and better communication of ourselves IN our interpersonal lives, we are continually corralled into women's idea of "propriety"... which has more to do with us continually accommodating the world she feels more comfortable in (Her Phase I), leaving boys without any greater idea of who a good male is, than one who accommodates her and her assumptive feelings and subsequent values... and at the expense of our own, besides! In short boys, and the men they become spend so much time following females feelings that we have little ability to know, love, or live our own!

I know you want letters from some of the boys, or older males like me to tell you about our own boyhoods and what kind of lifestyle and expectations works best for us, but I think I just told you.

I work in a Boys' High School, and am good friends with the History teacher here. He likes the atmosphere here like I do, and has explained to me how many ancient cultures simply helped girls grow up with women, and boys moving over to the community of males when he is more a boy than a child (a "child" is better defined as someone who can't exist without his mother constantly micromanaging of his life and its interpretations) in groups of their own, instead of one man and one woman in one nuclear family. Hence the term "it takes a village" takes on new meaning. Like you say in your book, and I have read a lot of it... males are CIRCULATORY and meant to spend varying amounts of time with those who need what he has learned, and the resources he has to share, and vice versa, moving on (and back too) to help him do just that.

Which means that many of the criticisms and accusations women bring on us is for not living like females are living, for reasons of their own specialized female design, dynamics, and instinct interests, which really have little more understanding of us than our daily (Phase III unconcluded) urge to impregnate a DNA match to further our own male genes. Yet, most males are so worried about having no Eros in their lives at all (because of our current culture's preference for female emotions over our own as the center of all human emotions) that they'll do and accept everything women want, just to prevent her waving him off at night when he finally can express himself at all... in Phase III mating, as explained in the GOMVP resources.

Yes, P2, I do agree that boys should be at work more of the time with older males, but I'd go as far as to say we need to give boys the choice of living with the community of older males and back if they like.  No system is perfect, and many of the ancients seemed downright cruel... but it was because of the environment and learning how to deal with it demanded taking pain to deal with.  We have a much better world today, but are being treated by women as if men need to be more like women to be civilized, because they think its men who make a world dystopian and that it's her mission to convert us. Please explain to these women what they aren't getting about male negativity... and how to change it. 

I'll pass the invitation to write and send something in to bnauthor@gomvp.me to my whole school, as I also invite all the readers of your writings here, to do the same, and, oh yes... help boys feel the joy of writing with more and more practice... honestly... too.  We can all be writing coaches for boys... give it a try!  Thanks for your work P2!  Don't stop!

By the way... How about that Dusty May group over at U of M?!  That's good basketball coaching... and a great team of great individual males!

Charley

A better Male Optimizaton of our Male experience of Life is on the horizon, with a new narrative that includes our HONEST MALE feelings this time! ...

.. But If we males don't work to build a better MALE experience of life for ourselves NOW, who else will? ... THIS may be our last chance for quite a while! Once AI starts looking to females for emotional definitions, instead of us too, the bias of their Female instinct feelings, well intentioned or not, will drown ours, and our real interests, with them   ... Ad Infinitum ...

Sincerely...

P2s Reply

Hi Charley! Thanks for writing! I second your invitation for boys to write in and older males to help them do it! I'd like to hear from boys of all ages and interests and what they do and don't like about the world around them.  What they'd like to do if THEY had the choice.  And of course what all the great Music Coaches, and Spiritual coaches, building coaches and Thinking coaches, Sports coaches and Outdoors coaches; in short, what all of you genuine Male Life coaches (Phase II, Male Nature Nurturers) of all kinds out there wanted when YOU were boys too!  Think back... it's all there in the depths of your memories and subconscious, you just need some peace to help your mind find it.

     Philosophically speaking, boys DO become more and more like those they are living with. As a wise doctor I once knew told me... "Boys are like living stem cells... they become like whoever feeds them" The assumption that boys will be boys, no matter what, is only half right.  Yes, they have the life resources... but if they find themselves in a challenging environment they have to adapt to, then they become more like that environment than able to develop their full male resources to respond more than that world's demands. Hence the struggle to maintain the Good life put inside you to feel and share, with a world determined to prevent you from even seeing let alone choosing it. Today, Radical Feminist expectations and invalid laws are making the experience of males everywhere seem emotionally Dystopian.  Infinity is a large place, and as good as life is, and as much as it wants us all to enjoy and appreciate its many blessings, It gives Eros to the good and bad alike to keep our species making as many babies as possible, and we have all too many examples of seeing how boys Eros grows negatively when they're forced to live someone else's directives, enforced with disregard or punishments, or emaciated out of their own male life feelings of joy for life and each other... many grow to be just like the oppressors who turned their emotional experience of life negative before they were able to choose anything else as boys... 

        For example, Many of the good people in Europe, looking for ways their boys could avoid growing up like Hitler, tried for a time back in the 70s to help boys grow in positive care for each other more than negative fear / attack of other's differences.  They thought that letting men and boys be as close to each other as they were both ready to appreciate and able to make each other happier and more caring of each other and life around them as possible, would help them treat others more as friends they hadn't met yet, than enemies to fear and loathe.  Their movement got nipped in the bud by out of context interpretations suffocating their attempt at believing in the GOOD, by using "old wineskin" fear mongering and shame to end that experiment.

      If you were to ask me just why men have never stood up to represent our boys ourselves, let me share some of the deep research my future books will help us all understand... how our current thought got to where it is now... it wasn't in the Universal (Essential) Truth of life creation (but in the artificiality of cultural roles and functions turned to controller of our expectations rather than our servant) [What Jesus may have really meant when he said "the law is made for man... man is NOT made for the law!"] But its up to us to not only make GOOD law, but law that includes male feelings, both men and boys', not just females'! both the male and female have an entire range of sensitivity and sensuality.  Cultures originally turned us into divisions of labor by sex in order to organize us as a team against the hungry animals who saw us as a meal, and had sharper claws, bigger teeth, faster legs, and on and on.  I call this Cultural Survival Tactic "The Great Bifurcation," because it started us on the road to giving women ALL the sensitive quality activities to specialize as if that's all Females could be and men ALL the Aggressive ones, as if that 's all males could be.  It made sense at the time, but mistakenly assumed it wouldn't change who we were in that process.  Unfortunately it worked so "well" that once we conquered the animals, we started having to conquer each other to feel the negative energy realm that put the males into, locking us out of our Male sensitivity development. 

          While the whole story will take a full length feature article or section in one of my books,  I'll fast forward to the AHA of it all... Males have been specialized so well and so long and so intimidated and extorted out of seeing it any other way, that males have BECOME the NEGATIVE emotional side of his fuller Male Sensitive and Male sensual range of perceiving and reacting.  [Again, what Jesus realized had to be dealt with, at a crux of our civilizational foundations, and worked on to help us see that we had to have the "eyes" to see the Kingdom (positive polarity) and would have to be REBORN to re experience life in positive terms to experience the way we needed to see ourselves and world grow Golden Rule positive, and the Kingdom he was talking about...]

          Why our current generation of males couldn't even see what he was losing, going on all around them, has to do with the very cultural survival tactic that caused the Great Bifurcation to change our perceptions of who males and females are, from a full range of positive and negative according to the different design, mission and instinct within us each for life to keep on keeping on... eternally.  Thus the sensitivity and tenderness women give us are not only worked with and given to girls who do the same, resulting in more and more degrees of sensitivity development, but in the FEMALE VERSION ONLY.  While males, conversely, have NO Male Sensitivity and sensuality training, and so mistakenly think that sensitivity is something Feminine because of never having learned how to understand and live our own MALE sensitivity and Male sensuality! We are in a kind of evolutionary speed bump, in which we can't progress emotionally without slowing down and looking at our own lives first.  We have to raise our minds OUT of the "cultural tunnel" which makes us think that males can only be "manly" if they are "strong," by practicing insensitivity to support women's "tenderness." Such a male identity CREATES the very kind of men who live by negative energy from having lost touch with their positive polarity Eros experience of life and each other.

        Deep territory, indeed... and why getting into the writings and sharing your own, especially right here at GOMVP will help us uncover why we have so much conflict and war in what could otherwise be the most enjoyably technologically advanced time humanity has ever known. Yet, without our understanding just how we are being emotionally pulled down into negative polarity emotions, by a paranoia of "sexual abuse" so amorphous and blind, and conflated with mindless overpowerments that it prevents boys from getting the genuine older MALE love they need to STAY positive, and base themselves on, and value ourselves and each other  in, Golden Rule PEACE. Underneath even the most technologically advanced world we have built, our unresolved misunderstandings and unnecessary fears of each other have become our own worst enemy, turning our technological conveniences into an illusion of contentment,  destined to crumble if we don't learn how to love one another... for real... FIRST... and that takes learning how we help our next generation to feel and be at one with each other, and help those who don't feel love from non-inclusions of many kinds, get enough to at least stay on the right polarity track.  (Please read the Movie-Munications description of "Forbidden Planet" in V1B1 for the MNN connection.) AND... watch this clip of the Original 1956 Classic Sci Fi movie itself.

         Well Charley... look at the inspiration your letter opened up! I do like your three points and the logic you share. Great insights! I'm sure many men would be happy to share more of their lives with boys, circulatorily throughout all humanity, as the genuine FATHERING life created in them, but we lost track of in our product over people prioritized evolving, so far.  Further, you bring up a very relevant observation... that our past cultures used to raise boys in a community of males, and helped them grow in true masculine normality as a result.  So, even more than finding ways to help boys join men at the work place every day, and assimilate male values all day long (like girls assimilate FEMALE values all day long, and is the real reason they do better on many educational tests than boys do) we need to give boys the opportunity to live in communities of males for varying lengths of time as well.  Thanks so much for your interest, and support in helping us KEEP our current societal advances, while simultaneously helping females deal with their unnecessary fear of us and our GOOD, SELF regulatable, Male Eros.  The boy is the father of the man, so helping the male of our species regain his MALE sensitivity and MALE sensuality, which is shaped and formed in heartfelt appreciation, both given and received, from the earliest ages, holds the key to keeping our societies fluid and positive (like blood in the circulatory system of our bodies or oil in the machinery of an engine, keeping both "healthy.")

Surprise! (not an April joke)... Anyone sending the correct name and April birthday of the man who sincerely gave his life to helping boys experience a better boyhood, and received boys' love back in return along with a whole community of supporters, only for values judgement accusations of his heartfelt work by those not in a position to understand it brought the happy valley he helped create to an end; a man who would be 151 years old were he still alive today... to the GOMVP email address below... will get a free PDF download of ...

The MALE Solution to the CMD* (a $17.50 value in money's metrics, but priceless to the essential Truth-seeking inquiring mind!)

I don't just want boys to write (a good goal by itself) but to honestly share with us what THEY want their boyhoods to be like, so they can actively work with us older males to envision and WRITE the NEW NARRATIVE that INCLUDES them too, and ALL MALE interests and feelings THIS TIME... All males regarded, young and old.

     It's up to US... older males to Represent Boys genuine male feelings, because women have never been a boy, and don't know how to.

Somewhere in the 1960's women began doing more than just working to get and keep a vote (something that took them from the 1850s to 1920 to accomplish) and had so numbed our male minds to accept their directives automatically, that they continued on to re-writing the entire social narrative in their own image and likeness. Abortion became "good", and male loving feelings, especially with boys, became "bad!" Now, I'm all for giving both sexes lots of choices, but not when one sex does so at the expense of the other's... as Warren Farrell explains in The Boy Crisis ... "When one sex wins, both sexes lose!"

When I see the picture, above, I think of the Garden of Eden vision, and just how, in theory, humanity messed up the freedom we had to love life by fearing it instead (Yes... the Original, Original sin). Raise your consciousness with me and you can see how we still have ourselves locked out by BELIEVING more in possible evil than BELIEVING in our own Life Created MALE affection based Eros feelings and inner direction. The key is  being taught how to by the wiser around us (MNN... Male nature nurturing).

BONUS! ...

Plato, The Second

April and May:

How anyone who is, or ever was a boy, would like boyhood to be like...

How do you feel about boyhood and what we can do to improve the experience of boyhood towards the more genuinely male appreciating experience that would help us create a better world.

If I ruled the world...

June 2026: Recap and Summer Direction

First of all, Congratulations to our APRIL Prize winner... a genuinely in-male-touch, older German Teen, almost 20, nicknamed “Rolf” who not only knew who our mystery caring male of the past is*, but has a family who shared roots with the people of the community Gustave helped establish and led. Rolf explained in his letter, which I am not reproducing here in respect to him and his family members' privacy **, that they continue to spend weekends and even sometimes weeks at their country property, much of the time sharing naked exercises and hikes in a true joy of being one with nature and the goodness in each other. (what the early Greeks called “Virtue” or being in physical touch with the life within us, itself, as well as the other dimensions of experiential connection with nature... the greater forces of life we are all a part of)

          Rolf explained that they do not choose to be full fledged naturists, which is quite legal today, because they want to keep the degree of Eros appreciation for each other that being naked all the time makes too familiar to sense how special we can feel about each other, when in POSITIVE polarity attitudes. (a clue to how our society is currently missing out on this special feeling about each other you can feel a personality complementation with ("I know mine and mine know me..." like!).  He explained that he has enjoyed many intimate times with uncles and friends of the family, and that it truly gives him not only a wider perspective on life, and how good people can be, but more information and more meaning than he could possibly have received in the educational institutions which discourage personal relationships between students and teachers. He explained that much like what Plato the Second calls “Male Nature Nurturing” that he and his relatives both gave and received Eros enjoyment, to various life affirming levels, degrees and amounts, in many personalized situations in which he was first learning a job, sharing a talent, writing, or simply enjoying living with nature together. In essence, he explained that to all of these people, even today, their time with each other is because they genuinely like each other and want to give each other bodily acceptance, appreciation, and affirmation, just like P2 speaks about, but under conceptual names that Gustave used in his school in the country.

It’s important to understand that Gustave took his school and the community of people involved... parents and teachers and friends of the movement, to the country, because the city is usually so focused on cultural expectations that Gustave’s Group didn’t feel they could trust the city authorities to understand the depth and meaning of their alternative school. So as helpful as city authorities CAN be, in many ways, when it comes to understanding humanely in touch people's desire to be close friends with their teachers, today's city culture has little understanding but the single mistaken assumption they automatically make about all intergenerational intimacy. GOMVP hopes to bridge that gap of understanding, and in the process of intelligent and meaningful discussion, help not only boys, but governing bodies understand who actually IS a danger to boys and both why and when, as well as who is NOT... why not and when not. Essentially more people, will be helped this way!

That the wisdom of the Free-School members in passing down information through friendships as well as ordinary classes, which those so educated likewise make with younger males than themselves, too, needs to be understood in all its helpful terms.  It allows them both to be genuinely happy in the SPECIAL friendships that helps motivate each new day with a great start! Like Serendipity itself, Male circulatory nature reaches out to connect... never knowing what joys of life we can find anew even when not  expecting to, happy to share their feelings and bodies in many ways which the younger males can relate to from THEIR level of feelings, growth, and desire to be one with our nature too.

So we were happy to be able to make the acquaintance of such a knowledgeable and nuanced male who fully understood the value of older male nature nurturing bonding relationships from being in a family who valued them and often put together arrangements in which he could enjoy the company of older males who felt drawn to befriend him. He explains that nothing he has seen anywhere else even compares to the way they can normally live with each other in appreciation of who the young are as real people. He explained that the current idea society has of the young as simply "women's children" robs boys of their true male identity as continually growing, and more and more ready for MALE connection TO life, as it replaces female protection FROM the environment they find themselves in, which she is life's welcome to them to begin with, not usurp his male identity with.

Rolf says  he started realizing his unique self was being perceived as  special, when he was brought to spend time at his DNA family's country cabins and grounds, by a lake, no less, when he was about 5, and that simply learning how he could behave THERE, was even more appreciated by him after understanding that in the city and elementary type schools he thereafter attended, he HAD to act along with way the other students treated each other from ignorance of their own nature and feelings, despite his natural older male experience putting him way ahead of where their minds were. The way they related and prioritized, and used computers to learn,  were indeed something he valued, and used such info with his friends in the country as well, but he had to keep the city version separate from the older male friendships and younger male friendships he had evolved in the country, they might have mistakenly prioritized that. Of course he often shared the same knowledge with them too, but in a Holy Spirit of Positive Male attitudes,  which he had learned from older male mentor's personal guidance, and when he was on his regular excursions with his family. He was indeed happy to have that opportunity, but also wished he could take some of his city schoolmates with him, because he felt that many of them would be as happy as he was, living PMI too. But because he feared they would end up inadvertently telling someone else and that his family might have suffered the same misunderstood destiny that Gustave did... a misunderstanding of what Plato would explain as a city mentality that only knows 2 Phases... One Phase ONE children being protected FROM an outside environment they didn't know how to deal with being directed towards the other, Phase 4 adult marital relationships, complete with reproductive responsibilities societies expect.  That view doesn't understand that DISPLACING those meanings onto the young, and the adults they become, locks our everyday growth out of recognition. By distinction, those who by virtue of their believing in the goodness of our naked human bodies and all our caring feelings, know all 4 phases, including Phase II nature nurturing, and phase III mating, understand the differences between special relationships and ordinary jobs.  Not understanding this  is like trying to referee a basketball game with football referees... out of context!

P2 says he thinks it will be difficult for those who think in terms of everyone being  a "child" (i.e. unable to survive without their mother's micromanaging of their entire lives) until they are 18, and then automatically an “adult” thereafter, and who, not being allowed to develop themselves in between, don’t even know the joys of their own body in its developmental stages, can only interpret and define any Eros at all in the early years of non-adult youth as “sexual abuse” or a host of other pejorative terms simply because that is the ONLY context they have ever associated intergenerational caring with! Such an impoverished point of view not only detracts from sharing and feeling the joy for life within us, but adapting to our environments, described, but make you feel shame and guilt that are all illusory and come from misrepresentative examples of real injury and harm, without so much as weighing there being any other possible degrees and amounts of BENEFICIAL meanings at all! So one-sidedly out of humane Male balance this topic is!

Lots to say here about how boys were considered real helpers from the earliest ages, for the groups own survival... that the Greeks only called those under 8 "children" and that even in the time of Jesus, he had to remind his mother that "didn't she know he must be about his Father's business" sometimes interpreted as "being in his Father's house" both actually meaning the time he needed to spend with older males to learn out his GOOD male self, and what it may entail to have a wife at 13, and what that cultural perception meant to and did to his natural male life!  All you History majors and PhDs out there could write some very interesting feature articles for us about this insight!

In any case, kudos to Rolf and his family, and we sincerely pray, with them, that they not only prosper and multiply, but succeed in helping their city friends join with them to some degree to forge a path for them to creating a “Common Sense Amendment” in which courts would finally be free to judge issues IN THE CONTEXT of the people coming to them, not just the “official” current position of the state, or perceptions of their leaders. (For example, naturists not being judged “lewd” because someone who was NOT a naturist entered their resort uninvited, was aghast to see life could be lived happily quite differently than the ideology she had been indoctrinated with, and  becoming “offended” (afraid of not knowing how to act in a differing environment from what she thought of as 'total reality')  ran to the police to convict them as “corrupters” despite the fact that the people there had no such feelings about their activities themselves! When those OUTSIDE a context of living and sharing, assume they must judge against them from a different context THEY are living in, judges should be able to invoke what we can work to offer our systems today as,  the “Common Sense Amendment” to set the meaning of the behavior and judgment rendered as appropriate to who the people involved  are, and free them from the single minded prejudice of those who know no other valid option to live life by than the one they were taught by the culture THEY grew up in!)  Lots to work through here, too!  Remember, GOMVP is here to help you discuss these issues frankly and openly!

This would be a great example to give folks living in the USA a chance to return to the blindfolded woman who was able to judge issues without prejudice, impartially, versus how the court system there has devolved into simply having lawyers and prosecutors showing how the behaviors brought before them  either broke a man made law or not...  GOMVP already has quite a poem about one man's rude awakening that the justice system of the state he had moved to, was not about justice for those involved, but to put both of them INTO a pre determined context that essentially applied to neither one! He couldn't believe his eyes! Justice had been reduced to card board cut out pre-determined values, not living, breathing real human lives! The goal there wasn't about understanding and help, but punishment and finality. Just valuing precedent to determine whether a behavior was already recognized by legal approval (probably in a different set background determinant meanings) or not... in other words in the single context of court reflecting societal (like some particular cities in Germany) expectations and purposes, and not actually weighing the meaning of the activity brought to their court to judge in terms of those involved, not just a geographical location. To act like back seat drivers is not justice, but oversight, and not the true Justice the US was created to afford all its people, in contradistinction to the British and its “pleasure of the king” expectations which could punish people for not being in line with the King’s expectations! 

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GOMVP has two current writing projects which are about to be made available this fall,  poems , both only a page long, and a 15 page essay, and have a depth of understanding and honesty we are not usually allowed to express anywhere else!  Of course our main focus is our Flagship book, because it begins the discussion we need to share with our current culture, many of which we do believe would love to know how they could choose for themselves, if only they had been indoctrinated WITH the opportunity.  In reading V1B1 (which you can now do on a 'Read Now, Donate later" basis for the summer months, in an effort to spread the Truth that there ARE other meanings for Man-Boy activity that are HELPful and NOT Harmful to boys, and that in fact, living without our full male recognition  IS HURTFUL to boys everywhere, many of whom would not have been driven to horrible mistakes if they had had the genuine support of an in-touch older male!

How wonderful for all the boys of the USA it would be, if they were able to pass a “Common Sense Amendment” for judges to bypass cultural definitions to give boys the understanding they need in order to share Phase II Male Nature Nurturing bonding relationships which take responsibility for the boy’s Eros development and its consequences, thus relieving both parents and the courts from having to impose “just say no” decisions in those cases where the older male and boy are both requesting they be allowed to live and share their experiences for the edification and enlightenment, knowledge and wisdom,  and options for Eros experience and practice leading to SELF-regulation that it is, but which society can only approve of once enough boys affirm that this IS the better way to approach boys Nature Nurturing MALE Eros development than doing nothing until he’s 18!

I would like to explain here that we will Transition for the June, July and August letter topics to cover different individual pages and issues brought up in V1B1 in our new summer reading program! So with all the pages of V1B1 now clearly visible for three months (though without having bought and downloaded a copy and put it in a viewer that can jump to all the links given) you will be able to have direct access to many of the important ideas in our Flagship work, and ask the questions you inevitably will have as your mind works to recognize not only how we have all been metamorphUSized OUT of our true human feelings and indoctrinated into a quasi reality in which we are threatened and punished (AHA, you say we must be in Negative polarity right now (obey or be punished)! Thus, in essential terms, we can indeed philosophically observe that males today are living in negative polarity, but can't see the forest of that truth for the trees of so many reflecting a world without it!) OUT of our own true feelings only to be bribed and extorted to do others will for us to get them back, but even then only a degree of the freedom we initially had from nature! Let’s pray and look forward to the day when our male feelings for each other can be recognized as part of a larger Natural progression which the cultures' builders left out (the cornerstone of male love)..any man or boy accused of “sexual abuse” or being a “victim” or “victimizer” without taking the MALES involved’s feelings about it, can simply explain to a court that they want to invoke the Common Sense Amendment, and be recognized for the validity of their behavior when lodged in the Positive Polarity of PMI (Positive Male Identity) that changes the very meaning to what they are trying to grow in together.

I must also mention that we this proposed new work... a poem...  will be made available to you after the summer. It brings up a topic that we would like you to be able to share your own feelings about as well, before we choose the next to present on the site. So please do feel free to express your thoughts on “THE PURPOSE OF MY PENIS...” Notice this is NOT the purpose of anyone else’s penis, or any woman’s view of what you should or should not do with it, but YOUR MALE sense of what you think the purpose of your penis is... what it means to YOU, and how you can best optimize the using of it as life itself gives you the opportunities and drives and urges and Eros attractions to work together with! Please keep this in mind, and draft essays or poems or even short stories or comic book type quasi reference to explain what the value of YOUR penis is to you. You have every right to express your true feelings, AS SUCH. This can all go on simultaneously with the analyzing and discussing of pages from V1B1 for our Summer Depth Reading, and you can submit your work any time this summer as well, but the focus of the site through the summer will be on questions relevant to the reading of V1B1 as now available on the viewer in our Menu topic of “NEW! for SUMMER 2026 Readers ONLY!"

Also, for those of you disappointed not to see V1B2 available yet, P2 is still working on V1B2! (Mostly because he has been so busy that he hasn’t been able to give it the time to release it in as good a form as V1B1, yet.) We sincerely hope it will be available before the end of year’s holidays, and that we will have better information about the entire series of books not only giving the problems of the dilemma, but the process our society will probably have to go through to manage to give it a chance to be a choice our boys can choose to take with a Common Sense Amendment kind of societal blessing!

Discussion point

Male Phase II loving attraction for boys is not just about education, but about the older male feeling which constitutes the special personality complementation with a special boy. It gives him the eyes to see the boy as SPECIAL!  This transcended man senses he would like his boy to not only survive, but proliferate and spread the goodness you see and feel in him by helping him grow, become independent, and count you as one of his closest friends too! In short it’s not only survival and identity education, but example and support for the kind of life form you really appreciate and want to help propagate and proliferate for the good male he can be! You ARE special buddies!  Celebrating Life AS MALE, together! And thanking life for each other.  Male FATHERING  and 2nd FATHERING are circulatory, and span all Humanity,  giving males a dual purpose to value and be motivated by!

[* YES! Gustave Wyneken had our mystery birthday of April 19th.  He was born in 1875, and would have been 151 had he been alive this year... He had the right idea of how to best include boys in our everyday life, but wasn't able to reach many of the minds that had closed themselves off to any greater optimization of life than what they already knew. Quite a story to his life and achievements! He lived a life of working to provide an alternative school where boys FEELINGS were recognized, encouraged and integrated into both a boy's own real male identity and the community of true larger family LIFE MADE us a part of!] 

{ **  Please understand that GOMVP keeps no identifying records on either its readers or customers of philosophical and Male expressional writings. We take great care in protecting the rights of all, especially boys, whom we see as needing older male support more than anyone else in humanity, especially today.  We sincerely hope that by reading, thinking and discussing these issues, we will begin to help those closed minds feigning "protection" (those who don't realize that man and boy were the normality for literally not only the last 300,000 years of Hunter-Gatherer Tribal existence, but of probably the million or so before that, NOT today's mistakenly legalized woman-child conflated standard robbing boys of older male care in today's world and causing many problems not only for boys but all society as a result!) to see how they are doing more harm than good, not searching for the deeper truths of humane meaning.  So in helping males of all ages express their feelings in writing, our GOOD male side can finally be heard, and those in charge of whatever culture you may live in, may come to understand that more boys are being hurt when restricted from older male closeness, than are helped. 

We need to believe in our own Male in-sync-with-life  GOOD!  (sound familiar?!) We need to present when male closeness with boys is GOOD, for both, and not throw the baby of positive emotional health out with the poison of negative male identity excess! Doing so will help boys grow differently than those older males who don't seem to care about boys. Such men are only that way because of indoctrinations which have them seeing boys more as horses to break than humane beings to trust and relate to in true male friendships (the deeper meaning of "Platonic Love" ... ) in a Positive Polarity (PMI... Positive Male Identity). Once males start expressing this positive resource within us in writings, we will better see how It's the emotional dynamic that really holds the meaning, and subsequent essential definition of our male behavior... of all man-boy interactive relating and closeness. If all you ever hear about man-boy intimacy is negative you won't be able to choose or help his positive side grow, in preference, or help keep our good males from being thrown out with those who don't know it even exists!

For JUNE, July, and August, send any question you have about V1B1... The MALE Solution to the CMD*

July 2026 Summer Reading Questions

Dear Summer Readers!

While we can't include all the responses and questions, until we get our upcoming interactive blog up and running, we will continue using representative letters to amalgamize the response content and give a fairly good response to the kind of questions we think are most relevant to helping us all, better understand the predicament that females getting an imbalance of power is demoralizing the meanings of our every day lives, and  help boys to get their own Human Rights to their own Boy bodies and selves back again... in this kind of Male deprived environment (inadvertently, being least prepared to see what RFF women were doing by changing legal rights to automatically put boys with women in cases of divorce, for example... resulting in boys not getting the fundamentally critical Older Male Nature Nurturing they need, want, desire, crave and deserve!) because today's males, systematically specialized OUT of their MALE sensitivity and MALE sensuality to meet societal goals and women's wishes, have been unable to recognize and subsequently unable to challenge such RFF tamperings with our very MALE lives, development, and behavioral meanings! Boys and the matured males they become have been the losers of these kinds of policies, resulting in a Boy Crisis and a Child Molester Dilemma, and a whole lot more we need to address and set straight!

In the meantime, we welcome you to think deeply and question intelligently, knowing you will be sincerely listened to and your thoughts and feelings valued for putting into further books and writings appearing on these pages.

July 2026 Questions:

July 2026 Mailbox:

Dear Plato The Second:

I wanted to give you my first impressions on your very special book... The MALE Solution to the CMD*... and... I hope it will give others the overview that most of the public needs to realize what reading this work is all about and what it can do to help them understand why things are as bad, emotionally for the human male of all ages in today’s world, as they are, and females unable or unwilling to see their part in it, at all!

Thank you for your work to help our entire society understand ourselves, especially as regards boys and boyhood, both our own in the past and helping current boys now... better than we’re doing now. Boys whose experiences engender the FATHER of the man they will become to take root in their very lives! I like your opening intro (page 2, first page after the cover) because you explain that we can’t just ignore current law, even if it is not only INVALID, in many cases, BUT overpoweringly preventing male loving behavior! Because we all need to better understand what has happened to us as a result of automatically giving females credibility for whatever they say and whatever they decide is "good for us" as if we were all still her children, and afraid of her either getting mad or crying if we dare to contest her misuse of us and our futures. We have been so focused in other areas of our social responsibilities that we have inadvertently let females Define boys’ lives from their FEMALE kind of fearful feelings as if we as males don’t have, feel, want or need MALE LOVE and its intrinsic support of our maleness, every day, both as younger and older males in our own lives, to be happy and healthy as the MALES we ARE.

Deflate our own hopeful feelings, and males become negative quickly. I.e., I see your work as trying to help us understand and respond to boys empathetically, Golden rule style, as we would have liked to be treated as boys, but weren’t, and probably weren’t because no one, especially females, or males obeying them, either understood us then, and certainly don’t now... so glued to artificially concocted societal expectations that they come backwards in deriving behavioral meanings from THAT instead of our own GOOD male selves.

The key point I get from page 2 is that your writing is designed to help us DISCUSS the issues to improving our relationships with boys, and society’s understanding of what we are doing, when we reach out to them. You’re saying there is so much work to be done that it will take us more than just a long time, as worthwhile as every day of helping make that change may be worth it as that may be, but last into generations to come, continuing to refine what we have by then already refined, further and further, as we become a more intelligent and caring populace. No matter how right we may be, right now, we can’t just reach out to boys as the circulatory nature we both have encourages us both to do, but must recognize that the laws our current location may be governing itself by, thinks it needs to control us, from the assumption that we cannot learn to self regulate and self control our own male feelings. Lots to "unpack" there, and I’m anxious to see the parameters of the discussion you are inviting all males who realize there’s something wrong with the way our society and women are perceiving us, and we need to talk about that together in order to find a way to address it, before our inner hearts and souls get left out entirely.

I want you to know that I’m following the reading plan presented with your Summer Offer, and have already briefly looked at every page in your book... (V1B1) as you call it. I am intrigued by both the Bibliographical pages, with their full page cover reproductions, sketch of topic, quotes, and MNN (Male Nature Nurturing) relevance for including it in your references. They are worth checking out on their own, let alone the relevance you present. Ditto the movies, which I have written down and will definitely be searching for and watching as soon as I find open time to do so. I like the endnotes pages, have perused a few, and see you extending in them a more detailed meaning for those who are ready for it, while continuing with a more general understanding of the problems we are up against (because of the CMD all around us) in the explanatory nonfiction pages which help us contextualize how our discussion with each other as sensing and Male Eros appreciating human males can benefit us.

I also appreciate all the time and effort you must have put in to creating the Glossary. It helps me understand all the new terms you coin in this work, as well as the better definitions (which include US as caring males too, this time) of the old assumed definitions mostly females created for US to automatically approve of for HER reasons, covered over by assertions of "protection" that end up with opposite effects... not only on our boys, but on ourselves as a result. All of which can help us discuss the issues more intelligently. I’ve got to admit that my absolute favorite part of your book, is the “RRR (Randy’s Revealing Reactions) Fictional storyline." It FINALLY questions the status quo and says some of the important things I’ve wanted to say so bad, but always found myself being gagged, unable to get the thought or even the words out. Randy is SO honest... and you know, that’s what I really like about boys! How about you, P2? What you have said about how difficult it has been made for us to even discuss a subject which we have been made to feel shame and guilt about, to so much as mention, and a legion of women and some men treating us like a whack-a-mole to smash as soon as we try, and without any regard, are left without distinguishing vocabulary to show anything as critically basic as differentiating positive from negative dynamic and intent, or those with a different and frankly more insightful position to share!

I do, already, look forward to more of your books to help me understand where women's words and emotions are actually coming from. Having been so accused by them myself at different times in my career working with youth ( I am currently a College teacher who has had stints in teaching both Junior High and High school History classes.) I can indeed understand a lot of what you are talking about, and how important it is to this discussion and how much better bringing these issues out for all men to recognize and discuss, dialogue, and consider, together, will affect not only our boys (who need it more than even they can imagine) but older males of all ages, as well. I am anxious to learn more about why females act the way they do, and why we haven’t countered their blatant imposition of displaced female feelings in an attempt to overwrite our male counterpart as “bad” when they are only so unfamiliar with anything but our mating with them, that they can’t see we have other places for our MALE Eros feelings, emotions, and expressions, to develop and work with as options... which our specialization to “protect” women and “their” children, keeps us from not only learning our own MALE sensitivity and sensuality because of, but is actively preventing Males from reaching out to love our own boys and boys everywhere by extension of our circulatory nature's own design and inner motivations.

So, for my part I am glad to join the discussion your writing helps us focus on, and from time to time will offer parts of my experience with this dilemma, (Yes P2, now I have a much better idea of what that term means IN THIS CONTEXT of man and boy trying to be and express their honest male feelings in a culture and civilization that has “NO PLACE AT THEIR INN” for us! And, how not having discussed this subject before has stopped me, and many more males, from giving more personal attention giving care to boys who, hungry for real older FRIENDLY male contact would have drank it up happily, but I had to curb my natural reactions to them for fear that some female would come out of the woodwork and accuse me of “crimes” females had made up for “children,” that had no place for men working with boys, just to avoid the stark overpowerment of women who misunderstand males so badly that they have become societal bullies on a level history has never seen since the “Amazon Women” movie. Such women need to have a book like this so that they can learn where their feelings are coming from, and how to distinguish what the context of being a girl and female are all about, as well as how that DIFFERS from how boys and older males would naturally treat each other were they not fear mongered to male emotional death, and relentlessly so, with legal restrictions and impositions that shouldn’t even be there in the first place and weren’t until the RFF, as you call them, made it their job to attack males everywhere and make such a frenzy over them, that the public remembers the complaining and all stay away from this subject with not just a ten foot pole, but a whole football field worth of distancing!

I want to thank you for the opportunity for guys like me to discuss these issues, especially with other males and boys savvy enough to realize they have a voice that is not being heard and express it WITH us too. While I welcome those females who can relate to these underlying male issues and concerns, even to some degree and be helpful with their comments, I can sense already that many women (RFF wave 4 type) will be offended we could say anything different than how their female instinct (and displacing it onto us and our boys where I KNOW it does NOT belong!) makes them feel. I will check in with my comments and letters, when I think I have something to contribute or want to find out more about how far this discussion is going to bridge the chasm between where males and females feelings about each other are today... many men simply giving up females entirely for the way RFF have effectively intimidated us out of being honest males any more.

Though I do believe many will misunderstand you, and your intentions, P2, I welcome you and your series of books into my life, and am happy I am at least in a country with a second amendment of free speech to allow us to... because so many females act immediately from feelings they don’t even understand the source or full meaning of, but aren’t the least bit interested in doing the mental work and academic thinking it takes to understand better than react with knee jerk reactions that build up their egos at the cost of males’ ruined reputations and life careers, because of such misportrayals, without a second thought!

Keep up the good work, P2, and I’ll keep up reading and commenting.

Eddie, a believer in Boys’ Rights; and a misunderstood truth seeking compatriot!

Plato the Second’s reply

Dear Eddie: Thank you for your early takes on the importance of my writing. Helping all caring males express their male feelings without fear of automatic attack for doing so, is why our publisher is so generously offering the entire public the ability to read the text of V1B1 in linear fashion, or more if their computer setups are able to. I think the Read Now, Donate later feature (after you can assess how much discussing these issues is worth to you and the boys you live or work with BECAUSE you care about them and MALE humanity, and have been mistakenly cast in a generation gap Frame that pits your worth as a father with your ability to make your sons obey what the women in your lives want you to “act like.”) is very helpful.

You are correct about your main take away. These writings, and the letters and comments the readership offers all need to take place BEFORE we can actually give boys the older male PERSONAL interest boys need, want, desire, crave and DESERVE. I sincerely hope we will earn the right to be called to help Congress understand and revise laws RFF created (often by intimidating senators and other government and business officials to concoct details of past “violations” of female expectations if they didn’t stand up for what only some insensitive women want in law to control us to their liking with). Truth-seeking Discussion allows those males accused and even convicted of crimes the freedom to say what really happened in their situations, and allows them to explain how they were overpowered on many levels when they so much as tried. Discussing these issues will help us all better understand just how the overgeneralized values judgements we all assume must be “right” are not only actually wrong, but is causing the damage that has done to not only boys, but older males and the entire human race as a result!

So, for those who like to take offense first, and put off weighing the issues as if that’s just a “waste of time...” I can’t stress enough that the reason Radical Feminists have managed to get this far in not only hoodwinking the human male out of his own Human Rights, but made it look like trying to get them back is “offensive” and “hurts her feelings,” (so don't you dare try), has created an unjust and unequal environment in which no one can analyze Male’s own Birth-rights and behaviors enough to see that females have been getting cultural help to not only freely live their female emotions and Eros with the young, but are given cultural roles and functions to match, all while males have been specialized OUT of their MALE sensitivity and MALE sensuality to serve societal goals and women's pipe dreams. Thus women are mistakenly being assumed to be the “authority” for ALL Human emotions, while most male emotions are assumed to be either “violent” or “pornographic” in the mindset of female's and those males trying to control the masses.

That includes Male Eros feelings which were considered the normality for over the last 300 THOUSAND YEARS, and somehow declare that “women are better at raising “children,” (the time at which a newborn [but still growing] can’t exist without his or her mother) while SIMULTANEOUSLY RAISING the age of so called “children” from 8 years old (the age of boys’ usually first pubertal wet dreams, and boys being in touch with their own maleness in themselves and other males) which was recognized for about a thousand years or so from before the time of Socrates and Plato) to 13 as the age at which heading a household was expected and boys of twelve were subsequently given older male help to do so (“Mother, don’t you know I must be about my Father’s business?!), to recent changes to American Law, incited by RFF complaints, but so far out of most men’s everyday societally expected lives that they didn’t contest, which now make it seem that any young male is a “child” until 18, and an adult immediately thereafter, by those who don’t believe or trust in the GOODNESS of our MALE feelings, and assume they must react immediately to any female complaint as if they are uncontestable. Hence the Phases Chart is a real update our entire humanity needs to work with to better understand our own selves, and treat ourselves more humanely by putting into recognized acceptance.

Your first point of using my writings to discuss these issues together is truly an important realization because all who come here need to understand that even when we see how most of our laws on this subject are mostly invalid from being incomplete (but not yet recognized as such yet) HONESTY IS the best policy, and that those who think the state understands what older male feelings should comprise, will be sadly disappointed and even outraged (til they are “put in their place” by supposedly more “obedient” citizens!) to find out that such is not the case. Many men find out the hard way that Justice is no longer the Blindly IMPARTIAL woman WEIGHING every issue to plumb the TRUTH of the meanings and intentions, causes and effects of any behavior brought to the court, but are only there to see if you broke a law, without the philosophical and academic sense needed to see if the laws are built on false premises to begin with, or not!

        Thanks for the honest letter Eddie!  And thank you for offering some good topics for future reader responses! Look in the coming months to see if you recognize one! I look forward to hearing from you again!

A better Male Optimizaton of our Male experience of Life is on the horizon, with a new narrative that includes our HONEST MALE feelings this time! ...

Plato, The Second

Sincerely,

.. But If we males don't work to build a better MALE experience of life for ourselves NOW, who else will? ... THIS may be our last chance for quite a while! Once AI starts looking to females for emotional definitions, instead of us too, the bias of their Female instinct feelings, well intentioned or not, will drown ours, and our real interests, with them   ... Ad Infinitum ...

"DANGER" Will Robinson! "DANGER"!

Or just another False Alarm !

August-September, 2026

"DANGER" Will Robinson! "DANGER"!

Or just another False Alarm... ? ! ...

Hi P2!

I may only be 15, but I do think you are interested in my questions too! To answer your previous GOMVP question to boys... If I ruled the world we would all be friends to whatever degree we can like each other, and not be jealous or controlling, let alone overpowering with anyone. Except for in sports where you are expected to “dominate” in order to build up your self-defense reactions by trying on those kinds of situations with each other’s cooperative help -- the unspoken basis of it’s very right to existence in our ‘civilized’ world.”

OK now, would you please just give me the short answer to the question you raise on page 5 of V1B1? That is: Who is a “sexual” danger to boys and why, and who is NOT a danger to boys to be intimate with us and why not. You can give a longer answer later, and I’ll try to decipher that too, but I DO want the short answer first. I am able to understand the difference between Eros and Sex being made to substitute for Eros, being the feelings of attraction vs the actual joining of two different body types having a reproductive consequence to consider. I am able to understand that what you are talking about is my own LIFE feelings, and that what social authorities, including the manipulating kind of women you talk about, see me as, is a CHANGE from my original boy and male feelings into something else THEY are more “comfortable with” as a way to avoid them getting babies no one is ready to take care of. These clarifications alone put me way ahead of most boys I know at school. You could say, that much like yourself, P2, I am a boy who thinks about what others tell me, and tries to make sense of it, even when they aren’t. I don’t just automatically accept everything I’m told or seem to be observing... mostly because I often see contradictions and want to base myself on TRUTH, not just anyone else’s opinions, even if they DO know more about many things than I do. I’ve found that most other boys my age do NOT question like I do, they just blindly accept, or figure out ways to get around expectations they don’t like and let the cards fall where they may...

So, if you think about what I want from you... I need to be able to put a frame around not only what my parents and school authorities preach to me all the time about how I should act... and just where they got their “information” from, and please understand I DO love my parents, but I have recently had a relationship with our minister (I can tell you because you don’t have my real name) and he is just the most genuinely caring man I have ever known! He mixes Christianity with common sense and wisdom... he looks into Jesus’ life and behavior in ways that no one else does, and I sense from your writings you can too... HIS love for ME is DIFFERENT than my parents kind, so there is more than one kind of interest in me going on here, maybe three! Easy to see how confusing this can get and why so many don’t even try to figure out what you are trying to do for all of us, by yourself! Of course, I want to know for myself, and I think you can help me get there too!

I also need another “frame” of contextual sense around what our own MALE feelings and inner drives ARE, (as opposed from what societal expectations TELL me to THINK about them) even though no one else but you is trying to explain that, and then put the two frames on top of each other (AI is good at that, but says you are new to the whole scene about such things) to the degree that what things match are covered, and the rest left open so I can see the differences between what’s assumed and choices no one talks about. The bottom line for me, is that I want to choose how much of each (life Eros motivations vs cultural Sexual expectations) matter to ME (Yeah, I watched that video by Matt Errs on GOMVP [at the end of your 2026 letters menu which I accessed from the header of the website, and think it was really neat! It was fun in the way the words kept moving in all directions, but DEEP in the kind of confusions he was working through in it... and I really liked how good a piano player Matt is, even though he’s just about my age!]). I’m smart enough to know that no one really knows either who or what God really is, let alone wants us to do, and that neither do ministers or parents or even teachers know what’s best for ME, just what they THINK is best... but I’ve known since 12 that once you start comparing what one adult says with another, it just plain doesn’t always MATCH! So who can I really trust to give me the WHOLE story on ANYTHING?!

Please don’t get me wrong, I DO appreciate all these people in my life, but I don’t automatically believe anyone... especially after I saw how mean my own mother could treat my Dad... Yes, P2, they are separated... but as painful as that is for me to have to deal with, I understand that we all have differences... especially males and females... and that we need a lot of work to understand ourselves, and doubly so to understand other people. Right now it confuses the heck out of me, but I am beginning to understand, thanks to your working on this subject and I think you may be the right person to help me... so far no one else knows how.

                                                   PJ, a thinker (and don’t you dare call me “stinker!” instead!)

                                                                  Thanks a lot! P2 (See! I’m making my handle simple, like yours!)

Dear Readers: Answering PJ’s question begins a discussion our entire society needs to engage in, but has been putting off for far too long; more recently since the 1968 Stonewall conflict and eventual freeing of “LGBTQ” restrictions (which left OUT the teens who were there, but bartered out their acceptance as loving people by the rest, just to get older people THEIR freedom, from unnecessary female backed restrictions. Well, better some than none, but boys NEED our help to be their lovable and loving MALE selves and not have to put on a mask to relate to others or be considered outcast.) Thus while I address PJ's problem (essentially the CMD itself and its effect on him), I’m hoping that those of you dealing with boys in any capacity will get some of the benefit of the research I have been doing, by reading his letter, and my response, to not only better understand what’s going on in the female agenda and how it effects our boys inside, despite what women SAY they are doing (“protecting”), while simply using boys as a proxy for their own female interests INSTEAD of helping boys have their own interests regarded and sincerely cared about, to be the best MALES they can be, by getting the help they need to do it, from the older males who are full of life’s Eros motivation to do just that for particular boys they are attracted to give genuine Platonic type friendship to!

           HI PJ! You ARE a REAL THINKER! What a pleasure to know a boy who can think things through like you! You remind me of myself. It was at ten years old that I first realized there were other things going on in my life that my parents, as nice as they were, just didn’t have the best answer for. They never had the kind of society looking for Truth in their day and age, like many are reaching for in today’s cultural upheaval, and could only instruct me as they had been instructed years ago. I’ve been a Truth Seeker ever since...for 69 years now. Truth seeking (philosophical understanding, academically speaking) IS your North Star guide... truer than any man or woman’s words, alone. Yes, the women’s movement has been infected by the problem of absolute power... you probably realize it to some degree, already... and that their agenda to have absolute power over both sexes emotional feelings and behaviors, corrupts those who try, and absolutely! Such radical feminists are the most recent and most demonizing disregarder of the Goodness of Male Eros and its feelings and potential, and are a self defeating prophecy for males who look to them for emotional guidance today, anytime past about 5 years old. But males are still centuries behind even her kind of united viewpoint (for ourselves) and women's tacitly mass influence... probably because OF cultural expectations males are kept too busy with, creating others plans for them, which males later realize they need to extricate themselves (get out of) from.

I really like that you are trying to see the whole story... Think of it like a giant puzzle, PJ, to put together... as complex and with missing puzzle parts or ones that seem to go anywhere but still not “fit” as you are saying “conflicts” with anyone or any group purporting (claiming, though often falsely) to have all the answers. I think that you ARE a really intelligent boy for your age, and YES!... I would call you a budding intellectual yourself! That’s what I eventually became after many years of trying to do other things with mixed results. You certainly have a way with your words that shows how much you have thought about man-boy and man-woman issues and want to know as much as you can (without just submitting to current expectations as your peers probably are), to guide your own life for your own self! (YES! The very same SELF DETERMINATION which today’s feminists are so OBSESSED with DEMANDING for THEMSELVES, but FORBID and go completely BONKERS if males, especially boys try to ACTUALLY seek to learn, think about and wisely try for OURSELVES!)

To help you deal with your request for “frames” you can think of sets of Venn Diagrams... that’s where, for example, you can take two Circles, one representing one view and the other another (like man vs woman) and play with merging the circles to see how much or how little agreement both really or pretend to, have with each other. (or you can use the diagram to show how much of each one's influence you want to believe in and live)  “You” for example are at the intersection of both your mother’s and your father’s DNA and treatment of you, and while that may be apparent, just who makes decisions for your life may be seriously at question; something lawyers and a judge may be left to decide FOR you (in what they ASSUME is your "best interests".) Unfortunately, because our society is so far behind in understanding the personhood of young people, like yourself, they just automatically call you a “child” (under 18 now, though it was under 8, 2500 years ago and under 13 in the time of Jesus, and under 16 in the 1900s) and give you to your mother to determine the meaning and expectations for your behavior as if you were still her baby, especially in divorce cases where the mother gets the “children” most of the time.

That said, you ARE miles ahead of most of your contemporaries (others of your own age and even through High School). Boyhood (7-17 when shared with an MNN friend in true male bonding relationship) is the BEST time to figure such things out, because everything else you experience ends up being interpreted on top of them, for the rest of your life... and you may never get the opportunity to think at this foundational level (underneath what’s causing them to mean what they seem to vs how you FEEL about them) again! So I do believe you can understand what I’m going to tell you. My writings, of course, are for ALL males intelligent enough to understand what we’re talking about, and that certainly includes boys like yourself and the issues which mean so much to boys... but you don’t know who to trust! I do believe boys deserve the help they need to get THEIR voices heard, personally, locally and nationally, and with the right to vote (to be approved of by Congress first) for matters that include them, with a new constitutional amendment (and THAT would help us ALOT)!

As a guideline for other males of all ages I believe that if you are intelligent enough to understand what my writings are talking about then you are intelligent enough to get the answers you seek. Even if they are not what you would like to hear. Many of the REAL answers (honest answers) need to be put into context (what you refer to as “frames”) so you can see just WHEN you can avail yourself of their wisdom, and when you need to wait for better circumstances, especially because of others not thinking as far as you to see either the benefits or the contradictions like you can. You have the makings of a great philosopher, PJ! I will try very hard to anticipate your difficulties and address the answer to fit your needs as the MALE you most certainly ARE! If I get complex, just hold onto to what you can, while you leave the rest to read over later, and think about... from 360 degrees of perceptive angles, again. Doing that will help you put anyone’s versions of who you are and the definitions of behavior you need to prioritize, into perspective with the rest of the opinions on any given subject.

My perception... much like yours... had grown over time and wide enough to see the whole story most have just let go in order to just get in with certain groups of people, in real (now) time, but like the fine print (think of your smart phone or computer apps that keep updating and leave you with no choice but to accept, even if they go far past why you are in them) which give you no choice but to say “OK” to, or not be allowed to use your app any more! Many of these app requirement messages are hard to understand, don’t care about how you feel, and are just trying to get you to agree with their new policies, whether you have already paid for some device or membership or app you are using, or not, and bribe you to saying yes or refuse to let you use it at all! I won’t do that to you or others seeking the real Truth, like you! I invite your continued questioning to make anything I say more clear to you or in terms that are more in line with your particular circumstances.

Now, and I’m sorry if it’s taking so long to you to answer your main question, but I want you to understand the kind of answer I am giving you is PHILOSOPHICAL... that means that we both can question together and FIND the real answers, but DOES NOT necessarily mean anyone else in the everyday world you live in even knows how to think through the issues like you do, and will treat you like they treat anyone who doesn’t match what their more myopic social media friends are like or criticize you as if they “know” you when all they “know” is how you compare to those making the rules up, and will just as quickly turn on you to automatically shame you if you stand up for something else! So you may actually find the Truth of your answer here, only to be dismissed by those you try to share it with, because it doesn't have a place in the metric they are allowing themselves to live by.

For those out there who don’t understand the kind of initial response you want... when you ask for the “short” answer to your question... you are asking for the general outline, which leaves many questions unanswered even though it gives you the actual answer you requested for your own intelligence to ponder. The longer answers get into the many details, opposing views, and ways to bring us together which those seriously interested must consider to actually improve the social environment causing the problems we are experiencing.

Ok, now, let me make some intuitive projections for you. I can sense that the Minister you like so much has caring feelings for YOU as the boy and person you are, that you love your parents, separated or not, and that you are feeling a different kind of love coming from seeing your preacher personally, than you are from either of your parents, or anyone at school. In short, your parents see you as their possession/ responsibility, your “friends” see you as an “equal” (or not), and your minister sees you as SPECIAL (though NOT either as your parents ‘love’ you or as a man is drawn to mate with a woman)... an in-between place which our society has never adequately addressed, and can lead to serious emotional problems because of... (reference the movie A Monster Calls (2016)).

First easy answer... they all “love” you and you “love” all of them as well, BUT most of them don’t understand the differences involved, (make Venn Diagram Circles for each, with their convergence as the you they individually can relate to in the middle) and just want you to follow the “safe” path (which often means keeping the same cultural “values” or “just saying no to intimacy,”til you are 18, rather than follow your own honest feelings for the Phase and stages of life you are going through right now.) Most boys just grudgingly agree to keep a good relationship (like saying yes to that app on the phone or printer or computer you may be using, that blanks out your screen until you agree to the changes they just made to it... just for you to keep using it, whether you actually agree to the way they are doing that or not, and feeling bribed if you just say yes by hitting that button to keep using it as they direct you to, rather than how you feel like trying out.

Second easy answer... Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s... Eros was made by life to help us be motivated to give of what we have to others who need it, while reaching out to help others do the same. Eros is NOT dangerous... LIFE made it FOR all of us, by degrees (something I call our Natural Progression...) (though there ARE many, many levels of Eros and in different days and ages it has worked more extremely, in ways it would take another full essay of its own to explore) Sex itself, an aspect of Eros, wasn’t made to be dangerous either, but seems to be dangerous in the cultural terms which we have created for our own litigious selves; by forbidding any adults to be intimately involved with anyone under the age of 18, (which all of humanity most certainly was doing for hundreds of thousands of Tribal years, if not millions more before that, UNTIL we started trying to make the “uncertainties” of life CERTAIN by making terms we impose upon each other.  It is our current social narrative that conflates the meanings of such concepts as "young people" with "children" and "Eros" with "Sex," Male emotional dynamics and love with a female version of them, and the meaning of them all, when in NEGATIVE polarity (like pushing an ice cream cone into your face because they are disgusted by your "need for sweets"), in distinction to  those same things experienced in POSITIVE polarity (handing you an ice cream cone because they want to make you happy, and do) as if there is no difference in meaning... just referring to it as giving you an ice cream cone!

As for yourself and your minister, you both have to ask yourselves who you want to serve... Life and the Eros it created to help us have a better experience of life, by sharing it with all who live it with you, or cultural fears which have no rational basis to allow you to contest it, only punishable restrictions if you don't. (Think of Jesus’ time in the desert thinking about who to “serve” to live in its metric and terms of... the life inside him or the culture (old wineskin) outside him...) Right away you might ask me how to do BOTH... to render to God what is God's (Life as our creator) and what is Caesar's (the government's) what belongs to them... (you?)...; that is to share friendship and some degree of closeness or even intimacy with your minister friend and feel at one with life and God and each other, while others look at both of you with suspicions, or simply treat the minister as having a cultural job in which you go to church and listen to him, but must have no personal relationship with him because women are afraid it will lead to your impregnating girls, and just say your category (child) shouldn’t be with his category (adult), (because they are conflating the rules GIRLS need with the older male support YOU need as the BOY you ARE) to avoid whatever actual discussion you try to have with them.

Yes... it’s that "simple," but women don’t understand it this way because their KIND of love is different from our MALE kinds of love, and they use it to judge US with instead of rising above it to see who WE are as loving human beings, with and without her, too (and how to grow independently of units... as real individuals relating to other real individuals and culture and the Universe.)  Females are created and designed to protect (shield) the VERY young (under 5 years old) FROM the outside world. Males are created and designed by life to connect us all TO the outside world we can handle, and with each other (as parts of that outer world coming together)for mutual friendships of many differing kinds, lengths of intensity, and amounts of time. What’s appropriate for any of us, individually, is SUBJECTIVE (as the individual we are, not any unit we are a part of)... which simply means it depends on who we are and the amount of experience we either have or want to. While women are quick to restrict your intimacy ability for fear of your giving girls babies too soon, whatever guise (or frame, as you put it) they put around that. Males, even though they know females fears don’t need to go that far, don’t want to “offend” women (and chance being denied their right to have sex with them AFTER 18 if women find them more male (unfamiliar) than female (familiar)... which we both, and all actual males on earth, ARE!) It seems women today have men (and boys) by our balls today, and want to control everything we do by telling us we can’t use our Eros feelings till she wants us to, but wouldn't think of limiting those Eros feelings life gives her (Female design Eros help she gets to love the very young) to take care of the very young (oxytocin she feels breast feeding babies, for example).

So If I tell you that your penis, its erections and ejaculations are YOURS... and that people have understood that for hundreds of thousands of years of tribal life, Radical Feminists, news outlets and social media will all tell you that you have NO right to use your own male genitals until you are 18 (let alone be able to get the actual personal older male help you need to both understand and optimize it for the stages of life YOU are IN right NOW!) (but which the cultural expectations they put into law, and can change for varying situations, have no such option for you). Now, while women’s intentions may be in line with our common welfare, they are out of touch with Male reality. Out of touch with male design, mission, instincts and interests, and, frankly, don’t care... trying to preach “equality” as if they take our needs, wants and desires as males into account, but simultaneously misunderstanding that our feelings are motivated by life DIFFERENTLY... and for different purposes than HER design, mission, instincts and interests are. It’s like you’re in a Venn Diagram in which overlapping circles all define you in their own terms. You mother sees you as “her child,” your father probably sees you as “his son” and your minister probably sees you as a child of God he has the right to share Godly feelings with no matter who is expecting what otherwise. (use a 3-circled Venn Diagram to see how much of each you want to merge into your own self)

One level further into that answer is the conflict you are experiencing.   Just like your mother may be by telling you one thing at home, your Father is giving you a different version when you see him (possibly on Saturdays). And like the Church may be saying one thing, and your respectful religious Church servant may be giving you a different, though sincerely held version of it, they all need you to recognize the context they are working in. One thing you can do is simply agree when you are with them, and disregard that when seeing the others, just to keep the “boat from rocking too much” (to keep others from starting to criticize you for not being like they are). The quick result is that your mind has to work overtime trying to either keep what you said in one place separate from what you said somewhere else, or even remember what values you gave to whom, or just tell the truth of your honest thoughts and feelings all the time and find yourself with few friends to support you, and many talking about you behind your back! So, you have discovered that what each of us thinks and feels is the result of the experiences we all have... and that they are all different... even for a set of twins, living in the same house!

Thus while the Truth is that Human Eros is NOT inherently dangerous for anyone, the exception is for those who never learned how to use and respect it, and overpower others with NEGATIVE polarity energy dynamics, for lack of learning how to know how to, or even experience it any other way than one-sidedly. Instead of dividing people into either categories of “child” or adult, which is too oversimplified to be of any rational use in today’s world, we need to recognize the CONTINUAL gradual growth of children into young people, and how regarding them for who they are, now, is critical to the mental health they have and live. That is why my writings, and GOMVP’s “resources” center present the 4 Phases of human developmental relating... (and the "Natural Progression Chart" to come) to help us understand problems women's unnecessary fears create for ourselves, with emotional feelings as a basis, which even they haven’t examined (thought about) deeply enough to understand that most of the young girls who complain about men’s “touches” are getting a different meaning than the men intend or they, without the older female's insistence would allow themselves to feel about them, but the females have been taught NOT to care what men think... all they want to get across is that THEY have the right to decide not only who gives them a baby, but to draw the line at touches so that they can have some degree of certainty in telling young girls what to look out for, and creating threats, warnings, trauma and inner turmoil in the young girl, because the older women never mention the word “reproduction” and make it look as though males (even males living life motivations of friendliness) are either “wrong” or “evil” to give ANYONE any loving attention but their wives, and that too only after 18 (which are all woman-made rules they often coerced into legislative officials, (without real due process), who look to them for advice on such matters) So you can see how important your question is, and how all males interests, will continue to suffer, unregarded, if we don’t stand up for ourselves and try to make sense of how we are continually being denied our MALE feelings, just to get along with those who don’t have them, but stand up for their own!

Realize here that in the ancient world of Socrates and Plato, “children” were anyone under 8 years old (mainly because wet ejaculation started in males by about age 8, and needed older male attention to understand both what it is and what to do with it to satisfy either themselves or other people. By the time of Jesus, 13 was the age at which boys could legally be expected to head a household of their own, be betrothed to girls, or even marry, and take on adult like responsibilities. Ironically enough, 2,000 years later we have gone BACKWARDS rather than forwards in understanding our own Human feelings... either our own or others, and use cultural laws to regulate ourselves instead of even trying to learn how better... personally... ourselves. Lots of research work to do here, and my writings are full of such research and well worth your time to read them as well as the references I give you, to help you think through these ironies, conflations, and paradoxes.

Males who can think for themselves KNOW that their penis, erections and ejaculations make them feel healthy and need to be normalized and practiced every day of their life to be and feel GOOD about being the male life created us to be. That females fear it, or are possibly jealous, from not having a penis, is no reason for them to deny us the use of it for ourselves, when they only have the right to restrict our use of it with them. Males have been too busied to realize that. So, in simple terms, males living what I call the HOLY SPIRIT of 1) Empathy for each other’s feelings, 2) Respect for the level of Eros each is at and helping the less experienced grow as they are ready to individually, and 3) Responsibility to communicate on the same emotional level, and share consequences, comprises what I call the Phase II (roughly 7-17 age level) and goes past the old “child-adult” metric and into genuine support for young people to BE regarded AS the young people they most certainly are (no longer either babies or children [in the sense that a child is someone who cannot exist without its mother]), begins to make the crucial growth distinctions we are actually erroneously conflating out of young people's lives right now.

Since our culture, women, and the laws they incited to be made over the last 50 years don’t accommodate the CONTINUED growth of the young human being, and keep calling them “their children,” too long, young people with more information than any other generation that ever existed to our knowledge on this planet, feel they are not only being treated as their mother’s possession, babies and children totally dependent on her as the source of everything,  while any male who tries to come close to any young male to give him support, friendship and real MALE love is looked at as a “danger” (from women being out of context with what that IS, and how BENEFICIAL it is to the boy!) so that no matter what a man and boy do in this kind of environment, they can never share the feelings life is giving them to share without being defined by a woman's overgeneralization of “child” that refuses to let you make any decisions for yourself as a growing boy trying to get help from older males. Since most Fathers are locked into trying to keep their Wives “happy” they don’t object, and we keep living in even worse male emotional times than the dark ages, when even then such subjects as “masturbation” were never treated as tantamount to 'rape', (problematic). Back then the only "Eros" feelings to see as a "danger" was “adultery” in which women who had babies expected the men who gave them the babies to help with their growth and development, but were abandoned (or so busy with Fornication (intercourse with other women preventing him from giving the woman with his baby the support he had implicitly agreed to, giving others around them the inconvenience of having to help her get the resources she would have had from him, from them.), and impassioned OVERPOWERING which forced anyone to comply whether they wanted to or not! (lots of that going on long ago, which the "gates of hell" and "shrine to Pan" at Caesarea Philippi, were examples that Jesus himself traveled to and spoke to Peter about, there, as different (negative polarity) that the Positive polarity which the Holy Spirit he preached and lived was composed of; changed the meaning of Eros back to positive, again, for all those who followed The Way with him and his heartfelt apostles!)

Part of the solution to the CMD, and developing here is actively regarding the Phases, Stages, Levels, Degrees, and amounts as explained in my writings, and in more detail in my coming works (V1B2-5, V2B6-10, and V3B11-15) which give how we can work on the many issues that will come up as a result, and literally refine our own culture from our own understanding of how cultural expectations effect us, especially boys, and INCLUDE the human male and HIS feelings as well, THIS time!

For your more philosophical understanding, any Friendship that exists between you and the minister you like should more intelligently be classified as “Platonic Love” in which there can be plenty of Eros, but no penis in vagina sex, according to your own feelings about it, which he should have the “Holy Spirit” for you to regard your feelings over his own abilities with, and support your CONTINUING MALE growth with. Thus it is not only not dangerous, but actually beneficial to the hearts and minds of those (like your minister and other older males who have genuine Male Love for you) looking to give young people (especially young males like yourself who could have been married and ran a household at 13 years old 2,000 years ago, but are treated like a “child” who shouldn't be allowed to touch or let others touch his genitals, today, from women's fears of your getting babies you can't take care of) the help they need to fully self determine their own lives. I should explain here, that following my Phases’ metric instead of the old “child/adult” metric,  allows those in Male Nature Nurturing bonding relationships (which you and your older male friend could aspire to, would be socially able to take responsibility for yourselves, and not be burdened with the “just say ‘no’” policy that was really made to prevent those WITHOUT the Holy Spirit of Positive Polarity. Negative polarity (obey or be punished) may make life more simple for the “adult” citizens and women’s need for certainty, but does so at the expense of male emotional growth and development. The sense here is that your polarity with the minister will be positive, and educated, and therefore Male sensitive and sensual, not needing to be under the laws created to control and regulate those males in negative polarity who only use power without Male Sensitivity, and must be regulated by the state's and women’s controlling input. But it will take our males understanding how this does work, and put it into our new narrative, for society to understand, and thus STOP treating you like a "child" who doesn't have your relatability, and CAN be trusted to keep girls out of intercourse relating until Phase III is likewise recognized or, even later than that, Phase IV settling down partnerings.

I remind not only you but any other readers we may have, that by 13, boys are recognizing and biologically affected by the pheromones females are giving off, whether they want to or not, because it comes from LIFE inside us, NOT cultural policies OUTside our inner selves, and if not helped to get older male developmental support on these kind of issues from age 7 on, appropriate to the individuals involved themselves, that such boys will not have the understanding and experience they need to regulate and control themselves, and the result will be that what I call Phase III mating, will be their default experience, and cause those so deprived to end up thinking THAT (mating, the drive to impregnate and move on and again and again...) is “love” when, because they never had phase II they never were allowed to understand what Male love IS in the first place. It’s quite clear, with not only the 50% divorce rate we have from all marriages, and today’s sharp decrease in males wanting to give their whole lives in marriage at all any more (thanks to Radical Feminist invectives against males that intimidate them against any MALE loving prioritization), that males don’t even know that the reason they are attracted to the females they are is to impregnate, move on, and repeat, (for the survival of our species, as far as life is concerned) while the females, who have been given so much cultural support for prioritizing their FEMALE nature sensitivity and sensuality mistakenly assume they are the “authority” for all of life, including males. Such females wonder why Males don’t marry them for love, without coming close to understanding that males don’t even know what male love is (personality complementations from actual inner feelings for each other), from never having received the older male support they needed to see, feel, practice, live and intelligently celebrate it AS a MALE during his formative years, so that it could gradually mature into genuine love that he could THEN transfer to the whole DIFFERENT body type which females are... NOT just as the default trigger to impregnate as SHE HERSELF depends on to get the babies from which her mission as female will receive the most inner motivating love to engage in.

Note: there’s another level to your situation that includes our human feelings as our inner reality. You would like to tell your mother, for example, that she doesn’t understand ALL your boyhood needs, wants, and desires, but that you STILL LOVE HER no matter what... A direct conflict in which she may be upset with you, or even cry from her own frustration, and make you feel bad (for not letting her run your life entirely instead of you taking it over, yourself, as you can) if she tells you to “just obey Mommy” and “everything will be alright” (meaning she will keep you shielded from the outside world if you just keep letting her make all your personal relating decisions FOR you... much easier said to her, than done when away from her, and giving you the inner turmoil you will have as a result much of the time).

Another huge problem your situation creates (with “just agreeing” with everyone when you are with them) is that you will be pushing your honest self... your REAL inner self... further and further out of your everyday life and interactions. So, for example, you have to understand that your Father, as much as he wants what’s “best” for you, is faced with the same kind of dilemma you are. If he disagrees with your mother, his separated wife, about what you need as a boy, she may be so vengeful against how his disagreeing with her makes her feel that she will seek for ways to BLAME him for her bad feelings, (and everything else she can’t get him to agree to) so if he agrees with you that your minister friend is good to get closer to for YOU... that she will accuse BOTH your Father and the minister of “negligence” (to feminist infused cultural expectations) and force you to “just say no” to both, by taking you away from both (under any pretext [excuse] she can get social support to do, for her). The courts, unfortunately, in the name of social peace, are inclined to leave you with your mother until you are an adult (18 in today’s world) by a decision feminists pushed for and made into law in the 70s) disregarding entirely the bigger truth that your male feelings of impregnating the opposite sex were in place biologically within you since the time you were 12 or 13, and you need more help with them than “just saying no!” The real reason behind keeping the kids in today’s family so busy, are NOT so much for your development... which they CAN most certainly be... but for keeping you so involved in and focused on “pastimes” such as sports or “constructive activities with scheduled starting and stopping times...” that you become more like a machine part moving from being pushed, than a human being making your own choices because you want to, and FEEL good about, yourself to!

Long story short, your Dad may understand your male attraction to the minister you like, but side with your mother just so she won’t attack you both by reporting all of you as a “danger” to the authorities. Danger of WHAT you may honestly ask! The "danger" is to her (tacitly unmentioned) is the sense of her certainty that you will not even know how to get babies let alone try,) or more ostensibly, of a man luring you to use you as a sexual pincushion replacement for mating with females , which could hurt you physically. These kinds of recent (wave 4) feminist law changes to make males giving women and girls also makes it harder for males to agree to such ANY "sexual" relating at all (Phase III), or the fear you will take the relating you learn from him and use it with girls as if you wouldn't have already discussed it with HIM first.  There is also the question of whether he overpowers you rather than using the "Holy Spirit" I explained earlier.  And the fear of girls under 18 getting babies from your recognizing the mating connection you have with many girls, which would curtail their successful societal development into ‘women’, but really, underneath it all, females fear of male arousal from not having a penis or its initiating drive themselves, still assuming they need to control you entirely, oblivious to understanding that... the way to accomplish just that is to help YOU learn from wise older males how GOOD both you and your male feelings ARE, together first, so you can separate the wheat from the chaff (essential good from essential bad) from having learned all the levels in Phase II MNN and being able to work in all the realms to both keep you positive and empathetic, and meet your own male needs, wants and desires with everyday practice and male sharing... which you will treasure and value once they stop calling it a “danger” from ignorance of understanding the difference.

Regardless, in most ( 90-98%) of such contacts the older male reaching out to you is coming from his honest personal relating feelings for you too, and WANTS to help you feel good about your growing masculinity together by sharing his time and resources and yes, body more and more with you (developed in Phase II MALE Nature Nurturing.) Unfortunately our society has left this part out since the Industrial Revolution in which men and boys normal closeness was cut off by sending the male to work in factories all day. This was made worse by Queen Victoria trying to give a more respectable LOOK to men and women’s behavior by making up “sexual” categories that didn’t even exist as more than a body type designation, before (12th century), and then JUDGING each other by that compartmentalization (categorizing of our natural feelings into societally controllable "sexual" designations) standard. (Further separating you not only from your own Dad, and caring older males, but your own MALE feelings, as if they were only there to help you  “fight for your male right to win a woman identity...” in contradistinction to the female being credited with her life given love for babies as if there was a BIFURCATION of females as kind and tender, and males as insensitive and overpowering. And most recently Wave 4 (or “Radical”) Feminism, which coming from the authority of the earlier waves, used man-boy closeness misunderstanding as an excuse to get priests to stop telling them abortions (killing their fetuses before they can be born) is wrong, by focusing public opinion on how wrong it is to hurt boys now (which it would be if it were true, but their misunderstanding of Male Stages of Male Development, keeping you a "child," prevents all from seeing any differently than as mating displaced and hurting you because it’s overpowering you, when the positive polaritied emotional (HS) dynamic) is actually the MALE help you need to have in order to learn and do just the opposite... regulate and control your own Male Eros feelings YOURSELF,  with lots of practice BEFORE including girls, later, and treating her as kindly as your older male friend treats you!)

Now, before going too far into other levels, let’s get back to you. I know from my own life that you probably figured out for yourself how good your penis feels when you give it some real physical attention. Since no one else probably felt safe enough (from women’s fears and the societal laws her fears have exacerbated (made worse), you had to find that out by yourself, or with someone else who didn’t even know the trouble that could cause him in the kind of male-unfriendly environment we are living in today, or didn’t mind taking the chance. I can tell you that the chances are on your side (as the GOOD males in touch with our own God given life feelings recognize,) that your minister friend is not dangerous in what he is inviting you to share with him... probably many public activities you both can ostensibly (on the outside) agree to, but with many opportunities to be alone and share touches and glances, and looks into his private life and body, which invite you to, out of mutual personal interest in each other, NOT older male impositions, do the same. The only danger you actually face is from the emotional turmoil and disgrace you may feel from others who don't understand any of this, and might see and decide to accuse you and him of engaging in causing complaints and embarassment and even imprisonments as a (misunderstood) result.

Note here that to today’s women’s mentality this WOULD seem to her to be a danger to her VIRGINITY (her state of not having a baby or chancing getting one) while it is NOT a “danger” to you (you can’t get a baby as a male, only (much more remotely possibly) give a seed to a female that might) unless the minister would be FORCING you to OBEY his mating desire for a female (Phase III) onto his intimacy (Phase II) with you. (Overpowering you to do what he wants at a more advanced level, instead of helping you through the levels from caring more about YOU and your feelings than he does about his own, though his too, to some degree, CAN create an uncomfortable situation for you, which you can react to by simply finding ways to stop or replace your current church affiliations, by trying another church, or telling him he’s going too far for your level of friendship). BUT... If he puts you first, as most males genuinely able to love you for the unique male your are, ARE, then there is no physical or even mental danger to you at all. In fact it is very helpful to have your male feelings accepted, supported, approved of, appreciated, and affirmed by his mutual bodily contact with you!

Further your minister would probably have a “Holy Spirit” for you (as I call it) and even treat you better, with Empathy for your boyhood feelings, Respect for your level of Male Eros development... and helping you grow FROM your own level, together, and RESPONSIBLE to communicate with you and share any misunderstood consequences together. What the MNN solution to the dilemma you are referring to (whether to automatically obey those who disregard your male feelings, or try to express and share them along the rocky road of those not familiar with how important and normal they have been for literally hundreds of thousands of years before our own “modern” day and age) offers, is a way to help society and the women who fuel their legislators fears, give the responsibility of having babies BACK to the females primarily, and the growth of boys in Phase II (@7-17) to males you want in your life, by taking responsibility yourselves as well educated and informed with wise older male help, as opposed to either women or the society they helped create, do so "FOR" you by simply telling you to “just say no to any erotic feelings you may have until you are 18" (and they can send YOU to jail for disobeying, otherwise!) Enforcement may seem to be a “solution” that works for THEM, but it's NOT one that works for YOU or the older males attracted to reach out to you in connective MALE nature nurturing ways, by life motivations they feel inside for you and your continued growth and success in life! And why you and all boys and men who genuinely WANT YOU and want to help and support you, need a MALE SOLUTION to this dilemma, and which I am working to help you get ... but need the help of others discussing and suggesting what we can do about the misunderstandings, to restore our MALE value!

Now I’m just touching the outer edges of your problem with you, here, and understand all too well how very confusing this can be for you... one of the reasons most “therapists” would tell you to equate societal obedience with “health” and any societal disobedience with “sickness”... would not even know how to begin solving such problems to accommodate YOUR honest male boyhood feelings, (which he isn't trained how to, despite the fact that the more humane psychology of the past actually tried to do... help you with YOUR problems by not only giving YOU advice for YOUR feelings, but give feedback to the system so they can update the social order and its narrative that created them to inform those in charge... but today they don't try,  denying women caused your problems by denying your boyhood even exists by calling you "their child," instead (like most of the rest of society and social media are already doing by focusing on demonizing it immediately if it ever pops up in their lives by separating themselves (dis-associating) from anything to do with it, or be suspect themselves!)

A more simple answer for you is that if you go with your heart, and spend more time with the minister you will both be not only happy with your company, and learn more about religion and serving other people better, but will enjoy each other’s male bodies more and more... and I would tell you that it is because LIFE ITSELF is encouraging BOTH of you to do so during your boyhood (Phase II, @7-17), that you need not worry about any activity the two of you are intimately engaged in alone, as long as you both WANT to be doing so. (Watching videos of others so engaged, if you can find them, would support this Truth) Whether others start to recognize and try to keep you separated is up to the two of you to either stay clear of (by the way you react to each other in public) or work together to meet any worries as unnecessary directly or clarify by doing such things as reading my writings and discussing the subject in videos and podcasts or Truth seeking interviews (those not seeking to prove culture right ONLY, but seeking to find MALE LIFE feelings Truth and a way to accommodate and integrate them BACK into our current societal order and narrative, as they were for hundreds of thousands of years prior to our modern day schema and production based male activity focus, which inadvertently left us males without it, and intimidated out of saying so.)

Something to ponder while you decide how to live your own life... (while knowing that a “short” hundred years ago, many boys were normally encouraged to leave their nuclear family at 15 if not earlier, and find either relatives who could use a worker like you or apprentice employment situations in which they could help out and learn a career in return for room and board elsewhere... many senior citizens today can remember this or remember their relatives taking about former similar situations in their lives and that happening in their ancestor’s lives.)  Life is continually changing us every day. We are no longer “children” after about ages 6 or 7, (despite women trying to continually make that look longer so they can keep female control over you at the expense of your own male programming development!) and we are in NEED of the Phases Chart to help us out of the “child/adult” designation we so over simplistically accept without examining intelligently. For the longer explanations you understandably may want to better understand the WHOLE story, keep reading my writings and GOMVP articles.

In any case PJ, realize that...

“You can keep some of the people happy ALL of the time, and you can keep ALL of the people happy SOME of the time, but you just cannot keep ALL of the people happy ALL of the time! (No matter what you say or do, someone will disagree... though often from living in a context of assumptions about life coming from different experiences (even with the same activity or issues themselves) than your own... Yet we should never stop trying to connect and understand each other no matter who or where we are... [our Positive MALE identity and mission; our PMI).

Thanks again for your letter, PJ.

I pray that wise and caring older males will find and help you guide your decisions!

I look forward to hearing from you again!

Your friend in MALE understanding of ourselves,

Plato, the Second

PS, PJ... Here’s an oldie song that may help you better understand that your dilemma is not one that others haven’t recognized, but not known how to deal with it, either!...

                              George Benson song link

:masquerade >noun 1 a false show or pretense. 2 a masked ball. >verb 1 pretend to be someone that one is not. 2 be disguised or passed off as something else

.-ORIGIN French mascarade, from Italian maschera 'mask'

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A better Male Optimizaton of our Male experience of Life is on the horizon, with a new narrative that includes our HONEST MALE feelings this time! ...

.. But If we males don't work to build a better MALE experience of life for ourselves NOW, who else will? ... THIS may be our last chance for quite a while! Once AI starts looking to females for emotional definitions, instead of us too, the bias of their Female instinct feelings, well intentioned or not, will drown ours, and our real interests, with them   ... Ad Infinitum ...

PLATO, the Second

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